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I cant get these wish bones away from that bloody thing in the middle that the wheel, brakes and steering screws on to. Im all out of correct names right now too so I apologise! Ive searched how to remove ball joints but have not had much luck. Thanks in advance OH people.

Edit... kingpin?

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steering knuckle/stub axle. im sure other people have got more names for it aswell.
Its not a king pin, a king pin is a large pin that the stub axle pivots on using bush's or bearings, instead of ball joints (see 'D' in this image: http://www.imps4ever...). Holden used king pin's upto HD (if im correct).

To break the ball joints from the stub axle, loosen the nut off a bit (Like you have on the bottom ball joint in your pic), and get a decent hammer and hit the stub axle around where the joint goes in. This will momentarily distort the stub axle very slightly and allow the taper to break loose. you can also get pullers that do the job by forcing the joint apart.

Also, dont remove either ball joint nut completely until you have supported the spring (Leave them screwed on a few turns and break the taper, then support the spring and remove them completely)

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Cheers, Daniel

Thanks Daniel. I tried hitting the thing around the taper, looks like I wasnt hitting it hard enough. I was putting some big marks in it too so I stopped, took a photo and put this up.

Curly.

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hmm.

At the moment you have it sitting on the pavers so raise the crossmember and support it on timber chocks or something so everything is clear of the ground, tighten the ball joint nut until it is level with the end of the ball joint thread then use a drift and large hammer or just the hammer on its own and hit straight down on the nut and thread. That will loosen the tapered joint using the pressure of the spring. One good well directed hard hit should do it.
You might want to get rid of the sway bar rod and also the steer arms first.

If you then roll the crossmember onto its back you can repeat the process on the upper joint.

Remember the spring is under pressure so if possible use a G Clamp to clamp from the lower wishbone to the upper section before removing the balljoint nuts completely, or make sure your body parts are out of the way as you undo the balljoint nuts.

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Thanks Gary. Ill be finding a drift tomorrow and trying that.

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hmm.

Hi, I usually use two hammers hitting at the same time on either side of the stub axle where the ball joint taper sits inside the stub axle. if you know what I mean? an old guy showed me this and I was amazed how it worked, I was trying to smash mine out with a drift and swore it couldn't be budged and then he showed me this. As said earlier keep the nut on the end of the thread to prevent it flying apart.

Cheers Jim

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can be hard and awkward, but if you can fit them in it works really well!!

even if you (or better yet have a helper) just hold one hammer head hard against the stub axle, once you hit it with the 2nd, the energy is "bounced back" into the stub axle.

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IF your not going to use those ball joints again , just go to autobarn ,supercheap , repco,burson and buy A BALL JOINT SEPERATOR FORK , and you will have it done in minutes there only $15-$20.00 and you can use it on top and bottom ball joint ... but make sure you get one for BALL JOINTS AND NOT tie rods , ball joint one has a wider fork..

wombat..

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Ben, this is what I was shown as well by a couple of old school guys. The two small block hammers (claw hammers are a bit too light) hit either side striking the body of the stub axle has always worked for me.

Having said that; it won't work for several goes and you will swear it isn't working, then the next hit and it will just spring undone...just make sure you have the nut still on the thread! I have always found that a couple of threads undone is fine, as you can then clearly hear when it unfreezes.

You can try hitting it with one hammer, but you will get pretty tired and most times it won't let go until everything is burred or distorted.

Happy slammin'

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Thanks,

X2_Brett
"Kids are undeniable proof that drunken dares near fat ugly chicks are dangerous!"

A few BIG hits and it'll break loose.

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Cheers,

Emu

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I would offer to come over and give you a hand(just redid my ball joints) but im in Wales at the moment.

The way i did it;

remove sway bar(may aswell replace bushes, note the size of your sway bar when you go for new ones theres a few different sizes), you might need the wishbone end bushes too, theyre all pretty cheap.

make sure your car is jacked up nice and high and safely on blocks, youre best bet is to take the wishbone completely out(may aswell replace bushes while your there but MAKE SURE you note there is a hard and a soft bush so make sure the correct one goes in the correct hole!!).
remove split pins
back the nuts off until you've still got thread in them
bash the side until it goes BOOOOIIINNNGGG
jack and support the bottom wishbone securely (a trolley jack is best for this as the angle of load varies with the elevation of the wishbone)
remove nut
(loosen shock at some point)
lower it down until there is no tension on your spring
remove spring and wishbone.

If your replacing the uppers aswell, if they're the originals they'll be riveted in so remove the top wishbone(may aswell put new bushes in)
turn it over and locate the centre of the rivets(4 of them) centre punch it accurately in the middle and drill all the way through (probably dont need to go all the way through but i did) with a bit that is smaller than the rivet, cold chisel off the remaining bit of rivet head then leaver the ball out of the wishbone fomr the top and VIOLA!

Dont try putting the new ball joints in while theyre on the car, save your self the heart ache and black thumb nails(mine has almost healed) and take them out, take them to a shop and get them to press the new ones in, the angles are all buggered and it is very hard without a proper jug to press them in

Hope that helps mate and sorry if some of the info is repeated and irrelevant, couldn't be arrsed reading all the posts, need to go get some grub.

All the best mate

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Thanks for the info Mick, now that its stopped raining I may be able to give it a go. What are you doing in Wales? Wales is abit to far to pop around, id tend to agree. I want to go to Wales, they have great accents there! Good looking ladies too, according to Utah Saints Something Good 08 film clip. http://www.youtube.c...

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hmm.

ndt courses mate(non destructive testing)

yea i'd agree with the lady situation, it's quite impressive, much better than england!

let me know how you get on with your ball joints mate

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tip. i got a length of 20mm endless thread with some nuts and washers from bunnings.greast spring compressor and have used it for all sorts of stuff. accuracy in hitting the sides of the stub axle to free the ball joint taper, a follow through or push as you hit like playing golf or kicking a footy, a few swear words and a prayer to the great god of Holden Brocky will eventually get the joints free.

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Well both the wishbones are off. I just hit it harder with the same ballpein hammer I was already using and off it pop'd. Now the last little hurdel is getting one last bolt in a bush out. The bolt has rusted to the inner metal sleve in the bush and there and the bolt wont come out, no matter how hard you hit it! So now ive cut the bolt down as close as possible to the chassis and will drill a couple mm out either end of the bolt so that the remains will just slide out of the gap. The chassis is bare and up-side-down so its easy to work on, at least.
Thanks to everyone that replied, hopefully this thread will help people in the future that do a search.
Curly.

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hmm.

which bolt in a bush mate?

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lh lower wishbone, front bolt. pain! waiting for the sun to come out to go attack it.

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hmm.

is the head still in tackt? try leavering the bolt out with the end of one of those wrecking bars. You could also try hitting the head of the bolt with a drift and a hammer or try turning the bolt and moving the wishbone? i guess you've tried all those but just encase.

Only been away from my Holden for 2 weeks and already i miss fixing stuff.

I think you told me once before but remind me, where abouts are u in wa?

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Im in Shockingham. yeah tried al them things. the bolt spins, its just that the metal bush in the bush seems welded to the bolt so it wont go through the hole! its stuck enough to bend things. its finally stopped raining so today is the day!

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hmm.

ok mate well good luck with it!

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having trouble removing shocks from hj holden . the hole seem to small for it to slide out. I want to remove bottom wishbone/control arm but shockie is stopping me

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hi there hf, the shockie comes out through the bottom. there are two bolts on the underside of the wish bone and one nut at the top of the shockie.

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hmm.

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