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What is an old holden?

I am just curious of your thoughts....in relation to is an oldholden a vintage or such term of vehicle.

Lets say I'm referring to toronas, kingswoods and other vehicles of the similar era made by other companies and sold in Australia. But not just cars that are hotted up, as it would include everyday drivers, project cars, learner vehicles and such other aspects of use.

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Jesse

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all models of General Motors Holden 1948 to 1984/1985

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No Commodores, they say.
Chrome bumpers only, they say.
No plastic grilles, they say.

Well I say, if it doesn't have a 6 volt electrical system it's just a tedious, common-as-muck, modern piece of rubbish.
These VN, WB, HK driving convenience addicts have been polluting this site for waaay too long.
Electric wiper wuss-bags, the lot of them.
Bloody 5" wide 13 & 14" pretendy rims? Get 'em out of here!

HKing - resident hard-core guy.

P.S. "Give me convenience or give me death." (Biafra, '83).

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

Can you get genuine metal/steel/chrome grille for a HZ, I would prefer one over my plastic one. Or am I looking at a custom grille?

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Jesse
ˈfiːnɪks/
noun
1. (in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another c

rope-start, solid rubber tyres, acaetylene lights, and of coarse, chain drive.

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"If your car has quarter vents, a diff at the back, and was available with wind-down windows, you may talk to me.
Otherwise I am not interested. Amen."

God, I feel like rubbish now...

HKing - of Rosewood.

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

I consider my K-T-G's to be old holdens but my HX daily driver was/is my idea of trying a late model car and i'm happy with that. I've no interest whatsoever in any of the consumables they've replaced cars with.

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no plastic grills? well the hk kingswood would be the newest normal old holden then, rich people could have a newer old holden (ht - hg prem and brougham).. oh and the hq to wb commercial, they had a steel grill. a hg gts 350 monaro had an abs plastic grill so should be jammed in the consumable replacment for real cars box. Curly.

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hmm.

I think the VB Commodore was the transition from older style design to modern design so I'd say anything pre-VB Commodore is an old Holden.
David

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Old is good.

Old Holden is any Holden that is pre V6 engine

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Bryan

well I just bought myself a Commodore VB SLE '310 pack'.
& I do consider it an old holden, being from 1979, its now 32 years old.
has chrome bumpers & a nice old 308.

cheers
ms.munro

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Nice unit. Colour of interior and exterior? Wheels latest - 50 best cars of all time. Editor gave VB 5.0 SL/e a nod in the 50.

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Ages ago, Rusty said an Old Holden is anything with Holden written on it that is out of Warranty.

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My Shed

Holdenpaedia, they're the brakes Mate.

I would like this

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Jesse
ˈfiːnɪks/
noun
1. (in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another c

drive it out of the yard & it is no longer new.
but I think what Rusty meant was after the General is no longer obliged to supply new parts, then it is old.
I think that is 8 years but I May be wrrrrr?

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She was just a whiskey maker, but I loved her still.

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Ok I was looking more for one word that was a little descriptive of old cars, whatever make...so what would you determine to be a "classic" car. Or are we going to go off the "era" of vehicle manufacture, can it be as simple as that?

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Jesse
ˈfiːnɪks/
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1. (in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another c

if it's got chrome bumpers (my opion of course)

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old Holden is the small stud paten cars HG and earlier but not torana's

HQ to VK and torana are more intermediate ( but i think deserve to be on this site)

VL on is late model (eg unleaded cat converters and other nasties)

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“You'd better send a meat truck. Charlie's copped a saucepan in the throat.”

what if it has chrome bumpers and a V6?

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i cut off at vc comm/wb.the end of chrome bumpers(i should include vh by this criteria but...)jeeze just thinking like that i was a young guy working in the spares dept of the local holden dealer when these models were on the new car showroom floor now i consider them old car cutoff points.showing my age !

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To me a Holden is 48/215 to WB,
Torana LH to UC are Holden, as for HB to HA Torana's there Vauxhall to me.
Gemini are are a T car, Commodore a V car, Camira a J car, all world cars and the other badge engineered cars don’t count at all.

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Wanted information from any one that has any information that has worked in a place that built ambulance's of any type in particular holden hq to wb's and any ambulance builder's paper work or manuals thanks authorised collector of emergency electrical's

if its got an airbag its out....... that's why i like going cruising without the cook........
If its younger than me its not old.......me be 41 the ht if 40 so its not an old holden the hg munro is 1 month older than me so shes an old holden.....

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Modified is horrified

lol.Perhaps I should have better worded the original post to be something like:

"Is there a (non-urban) dictionary definition for old car?"

You can't very well call an ford XD or a 60's plymouth just a holden, so how about a "Collectors car"? Kind of broadens the criteria i.e. cars that had woodies instead of steelies.

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Jesse
ˈfiːnɪks/
noun
1. (in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another c

These are must-haves for an "old" car....
(please feel free to add to them)
-Quarter vents
-A diff in the back
-Bench seat option
-a chrome bumper
-tree shift option
-only drums in the back (brakes I mean!)
-only a gearstick and indicators on the column
-"key only" entry
-2 piece tailgates (for wagons)
-straight 6,4 or 8,or V8, always in the front,and
always North-South.
-carby
-radiator with a header tank at the top
-seat belts option
-radio if your lucky
-"bar" on the inside of the glovebox lid (those glass holder circles)

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"If your car has quarter vents, a diff at the back, and was available with wind-down windows, you may talk to me.
Otherwise I am not interested. Amen."

over 25 years for classic and 50 for "vintage"
something like that... puts me in the vintage class:(

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After 4 years ... it runs..Yeah!

Something that was designed to last, not to be obsolescent. (Over 25 years? That means Camira's are Classic!?) It must be 1960 or earlier, or I'm old!

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A: This topic

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Cheers,

Emu

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Rusty, can we please have a like button?

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hmm.

many possibilities exist here ....

chrome bumpers

Car older than the driver/owner

unleaded petrol

originally with a carb, not EFI

pre V6

any car without a cd player
cassette players are OK, 8-track is a huge bonus.

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