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RUNNING GEAR

Ok, i'm after opinions here.

Have a HQ ute, started off 179, 3 speed with bango diff.

Options: Rebuild original running gear
Purchase and rebuild V8, manual/auto box with 10 bolt/9inch
Purchase V8 and put procomp heads and 355 kit with manual/auto and suitable diff.
Purchase create motor from the states
Purchase VN-VR commo and use running gear off that.

Now i know this is a lot to digest and beleive me i'm rolling around in my sleep over what to do.

I don't have the biggest of budgets but i think the V8 option is my preferred option.

Do i go manual or auto, what ever i use what is my best option?

Do i go 10 bolt or 9inch, drum or disk?

Any options or advise would be appreciated. Once the mind is made up i wont be changeing it so i need to get it right first time.

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355, T5 manual and 9 inch would equal loads of fun. My brother in law has a 308, T5 and 9 inch and it makes for a fun ride. Get the motor breathing well and it'll make horsepower. Also can't go wrong with a disc brake diff.

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MATE build ya car first ,as this will give you plenty of time to think about what would be best .
Ive changed my mine about 2 millon time and almost drove the missus mad ,that was just the paint .i keep going back to keeping it all fairly original ,which i find funny and can see the ad now...
HQ MET LIME GREEN 179 HP BLOCK BIG LUMPY CAM
THREE SPEED T BAR AUTO
JELLY BEAN MAGS SPORTS STEERING WHEEL
LOTS OF CHROME ,LEATHER BUCKET SEATS IN
BUCK SKIN INTERIA.
Thats my car its just not finished yet,but it will be and fully restored

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fatz

Go out and buy a v8 ute would be the cheapest option.
A complete one.

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Whats wrong with Melbourne drug addicts sleeping all over the footpath trying to scab money?

All depends on what you want out of the car..

First option rebuild original running gear, if you want to go all original then this is obviously the go but if you want power and fun you will spend the same money on a six and and eight but the eight will be three times more powerful.

Purchase and rebuild a 308 is a good idea, depends how much power you want as to how to rebuild it, big power motors 400hp plus you would be well advised to use good quality parts, vn heads, maybe stroker territory.
Your 10 bolt will not hold up to this so a 9 inch will be a good idea, gearboxes it doesn't matter if you go turbo boxes or trimatic they can all be made to handle good power.
On the other hand for a more streetable mild v8, standard stroke, normal heads with a bit of work, cam carby etc its not hard to get good power and a rebuilt 10 bolt should suffice.

As for pro comp i'm not sure what we're allowed to say about that brand on here, but may i say just do a google search on peoples feedback from there experience with them and that should make your mind up on that pretty quickly....

Purchase create motor from the states is a cost effective and good idea especially with the good dollar, the only thing is you will usually need to get the car engineered to be registered with a chev, although saying that someone correct me if im wrong, since hq monaros came with 350s you might be able to just drop a 350 in there, and get it registered no problem, if so this is your best bang for buck as you can get 350 hp 350 chevs for around $5000.

Lastly use a standard vn v8 running gear is very cheap to do but there not insane power houses in standard form. also technically being a new motor you will have to comply to the emmisions of the car its from so that means running cat convertors etc.

Manual or auto is personal preferance although if your getting big power v8s holden manuals tend not to last long. so auto would be my preferance.

10 bolt or 9 inch depends how much power your going to make. as for disc or drum it doesn't really matter, well set up drums are fine.

So it all comes down to what you want the car for, a daily driver? a drag car? a mild cruiser? and how big your wallet is!

ideas on prices and dont take this as gospel this is ballpark:

Big power 308 or 350 your looking $10,000 minimum just engine
Mid power 308 probably around $6000
Chev 350 crate motors check around but anywhere from $5000- $10,000 depending power output
complete vn running gear probably $1000

So now you have alot to think about haha, good luck

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I have been tossing around with the same thoughts,
but i'm putting it into a HR ute, the ute is going to be my daily drive,
but i have to aslo think about the cost of running it , petrol V's gas
i have been leaning into the VN-VR way,
which ever way i go i have to get my daily engineered to be registered,
its going to cost me

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Good question Noblesavage, it is something that a lot of people here have gone through.

What you didn't tell us is what you want from your ute.

If you want a concourse original, I'm fairly sure it didn't roll out of the factory with a 179.

Is it a drag car, weekender or daily drive. Can you afford lots of fuel.

Irrespective of which way you go, to do it properly (engineered, licensed and insured) will probably cost more than you are thinking. I'm not trying to put you off, nor am I judging anyone who doesn't follow the letter of the law but I have just finished a 'follow the rule book' build on my HT and it was expensive, really expensive.

In my opinion, auto with a mild shift kit behind torquey 308 or 350 sbc with 10 bolt at the back. I think you will find if you build a decent 355 stroker that equivalent hp will be cheaper in a 350 Chev. Given the HQ can probably be registered with a 350 Chev that may be worth considering.

Do heaps of planning and have heaps of fun.

Cheers

Mike

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I would like to thank everyone for there valued opinions and advice. unfortunately i'm none the wiser. I think the V8 option is the way to so i think i will concenstrate on that. We have a great engine builder in town and i have receieved some very good advise off him. Now i suppose i start looking for the parts that will transform our creation into a beast.

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HQ ute
Father and Son
Chris & Travis

A mate had a new 350 factory q ute years ago with an auto and lim slip salisbury. it was a 2 bolt low power option holden had for the autos, ~15% down on the manual 350. seriously, with about 250HP it went sideways every where.

it was entertaining at first then became a pain in the ass. (ask anyone with a v8 commodore ute and no traction control)

it eventually left the road one wet night and became banana shaped around a tree (no injuries except to the guys pride).

i see father and son on your tag, this combo with a young bloke and 3 beers is deadly so dont get exited about t0o much hp.

buy a period engine from someone, tidy the ports and a mid cam and get it going. turbo box, salisbury should be doable for less than 10k until you fiddle with the motor!
ps find a hj monaro steering box as they transform old q utes.

a v8 q ute is about 10k so its worth the effort. get looking stock under the lid and it wil hold good value

budget for the dicky bits... exhaust radiator hoses, fan belts, brackets etc etc they add up something shocking and can blow out 2- 3k eaasy.

my two bobs worth

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