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only $1299 for a gts guard.

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dont know if its a hk-t-g guard of hq but their pretty pricy. i think its more ecornomical to buy a 1960's ferrari nowerdays.......

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If they are indeed perfect reproduction panels of the originals people will pay the money. Lets face it you won't have to worry about any previous dodgey repair work or rust.

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I have seen some emails sent to me by various folk showing the adjustment required to get correct alignment for these aftermarket GTS Guards. However the mere fact they exist is fantastic. It means that repairing junk originals is a thing of the past. I would rather spend a day tweaking a repro part into submission than spend a week fixing an original. ( and so would my paying clients!) A weeks work and materials at shop rates of $56/hour soon adds up to a lot more than $1300!

I suggest that this played a factor in deciding the price to sell these for - what the market would pay. Of course tooling costs would be quite expensive - so this wouldn't make a limited market for GTS guards cheap either.

What is the price for a plain HK/T/G guard?

Cheers streetneat-Andrew.

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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

there the same bloody price so you my as well get the gts.

watto

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the original ones might be more as you will need to spend time bogging up the gills! But as far as you point goes i guess 1300 is cheaper if you cant find any good original ones and maybe once the tooling has paid for its self the price may come down. Curly

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hmm.

Look at it this way.
You are getting a press designed and made. You are paying for steel. You are paying people to operate the press and transport the guards to a ship. You are paying customs duty and handling through the Australian docks. You are paying freight to your warehouse. You are paying for rent, insurance, power and staff in that warehouse. You are paying for a website and advertising in Australia. You are paying staff to sell and prepare the guards for post sale freight. You are paying for phones and accountants, you are paying tax on your profits.
You would like maybe some beer money from the whole exercise.
You are selling an item to a very small, specialised market. How many are you going to sell, maybe 1,000 if you are very lucky.
Think about it and $1,200 becomes very reasonable. Especially when you consider the cost of buying and repairing a rusty original guard.
David

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Old is good.

I fully understand the hidden costs in doing anything. At the end of the day, Jo Soap is going to struggle to come up with $2600 for a pair of guards in this day and age, after rent, hp, etc. I think that the guy making these must be doing it for love. Seriously.

Curly.

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hmm.

Hi guys,
While I don't intend to comment on what is or isn't a reasonable price for repro guards (or any other repro part for that matter) I would like to endorse what David (Old is good) has to say regarding the "hidden" costs associated with any business venture not only the spare parts market.
The cost of any item is not just the unit production cost but all those things and more listed by David in his post which must be covered just to get the infrastructure in place so you can make and sell your first item let alone survive for years to come.
We have nearly 60 staff here in Melbourne so imagine what we have to find on a weekly basis just to pay the wage bill so every-ones kids can be clothed, fed and schooled.
Things like this are the reason why although something may appear to be cheap to make but "costs" significantly more.
Cheers
Dave Ryan Rares Melb

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Since a few people from RSP use this site daily I think we should revisit the idea that RSP help financially with the site. Give me a ring early next week before Wednesday.
thanks

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While we're talking contributions to the site, have you ever thought about getting onto Shannons? They get a great run on OH, 9 times outa 10 it's very positive. I reckon they've got quite a lot of business from OHers over the years, and I reckon a lot of it has come from this site...

http://oldholden.com...

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etc..etc.. Just a thought.....?

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Cheers,

Emu

O.H.T.C. original member

Getting a bit off track, people up here bitch about gas costing 79c/L for their cars when it's only 50c or in Melbourne. They tell the local garage bloke he is ripping them off.
What the locals don't want to know is that the major part of the price of LPG is the transport cost. The further from the gasfields the more it costs.
LPG is transported under pressure. My garage bloke said it takes longer to pump 5,000L of LPG into his tank than it does to gravity feed 30,000L of petrol into his tanks. It is the same at the distibuitor and the wholesalers in the major towns. That's six times longer at every stage from the refinery with a truck that usually carries less than a petrol tanker. That's a lot of idle time for trucks and workers and that's why it costs more in some areas.
David

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Old is good.

Hi Rusty,
Not that I know much about the previous dealings between each of our entities but I seem to recall you had discussions with Les some time back regarding us becoming involved to a greater extent with "oldholden".
I think that would be a good idea because I think you have created a valuable resource for all Holden enthusiasts and we both have something to offer them.
Having said that Les is the person you should be dealing with on that matter as it is outside of my area of responsibility within the business.
As of yesterday the last I heard from Les was that he was still stuck in Proserpine and trying to get a flight home after the rains they had up there over the week end and earlier this week.
I would expect he will be back next week.
Feel free to give him a call and discuss your proposal.
Equally feel free to give me a call if you wish however I am taking a group of 30 or so kids into the outback for 8 days on Thursday next week so I may be a bit hard to contact for a while.
Cheers
Dave Ryan

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I would happily pay for the EJ EH guards, but I have contacted these guys with the continual promise of these will be ready in a couple months, have had the same message for about 18 months now

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The EH guards ( maybe it was just a pre-production sample) arrived about 4 weeks ago but they have problems in the folds above the headlights so it has gone back to be sorted.
Jeff Bloom told me that me. He also said Holden had the same problem back in 1963 and they did quite a bit of lead wiping to correct it.
Hopefully it will be sorted soon.
EH front lower aprons commonly have some creasing on the outer corners where the two halves join. It isn't a problem on the apron as the bumper bar covers it.
I inmagine it would be similar creases in the tight bends above the EH headlight, but it must be corrected as it is in full sight.
David

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Old is good.

does anyone know what holden did with all their panel press dies from over the years? there must be a shed full of them somewhere. I think the original pv roof press (hd - wb) and the cowl press (hq and hj-wb) would be very handy to find. What do they do with em? Curly.

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hmm.

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