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EH Holden Rego Check- Failing because of key ignition pin

Am trying to get my Eh Holden rego checked but the mechanic is saying he can not pass it if the barrel in which the key goes in, ignition, has a pin to make sure the key does not fall out.

The kay has always been able to come out in our car- is this across the board for all Eh's or is this man right and it needs to be repaired?

Any help or advice would be great :)

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It wasn't until some point in hq production that it became law that the key couldn't be removed with the engine running. My hk the key is free range, as for that matter is my 2016 SS.

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can the ignition key when engine is running on your 2016 SS is it able to be removed?? Or have you got the start button on it like FX and FJ??

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Cheers, Lindsay.

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Hi Stephen,

I think it was later than HQ as I had a TA which you could remove the key and when it was stolen I had to replace the barrel and the new one had captive key.

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I've owned heaps of old Holdens, mainly HRs and HKTGs. As far as I remember, every one of the does what you're saying (as in, you can remove the key while the car is running). My 2 current HRs do this, they're both very original, and I'd say they have their original IGN barrel and keys. In fact, you don't need the key if the IGN isn't in the LOCK position.
Good luck..

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thats how my HR is as well...it's quite handy if you want to open the shed or boot with the engine running - just pull the key out....I'm not sure if this is typ wear or how they came out of the factory...if the latter I would assume earlier models to be no different...so just went and got the owners manual - under the section ignition switch it states" the key may be removed with the switch in the lock or on position.....goes on to say this allows the vehicle to be parked by an attendant without the need for the key - thus providing security of the glove box and boot..!..so it was a deliberately designed feature...

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Andrew

go to a different mechanic

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yea go to a mechanic that knows the rules, ask him how he would pass it without seatbelts if they werent needed.

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The key not being able to be removed when the car was running only came about when steering locks started being used, so that you couldn't accidentally lock the steering whilst driving.
On that basis, anything'before HQ didn't require the key to be retained in the ignition switch whilst the car was running.

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But when the key was removed you could only turn it back to OFF. To go to Lock position you needed the key in, just like previous Holden locks.

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He must be under 30 and probably doesn't know what a carburetor is either. Don't let him try and tune your car for god's sake. My Ht passed a blue slip first go late last year. Just like everyone here, my key has always pulled out while running if i want to take it out. My last 2 HTs and HG were exactly the same. That is common knowledge, a decent mechanic should know this.
Yes the others on the forum are correct, go to a different mechanic

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Yep it's meant to be like that and the mechanic should know, that's what the protruding bit on the barrel (so you can turn it derr) and the LOCK position is for. The rule is there to ensure the engine can be shut off in an emergency, and without the key you still can with these obviously.

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I would not expect a mechanic who did his time in the last 15 years to know the older cars did not have captive key, after all how many would they see. Most older cars are worked on by enthusiasts not mechanics.

What I would expect though is for them to be able to find the information, ask the owner if that is right and if they say no then fix it if yes a quick check on the net or a phone call to someone that might know.

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how do we get them out??

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With the key, turn IGN to ACC. Stick a paperclip/wire or similar into the little hole. You'll feel it go in. Then gently pull on the key/barrel, it should come out. If you don't have the key, it gets tricky. Put pliers or similar on the opening, then wrench it off. It should clip back on if you haven't damaged it too much..

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