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81 WB Caprice Price Guide?

81 WB Caprice - interested in views on what one of these is worth ? Interior good, windows very slow, radio, cruise and central locking not working. Not working A/C. Engine and trans overhauled many years ago - std blue 308 T350 - runs alright, quite a few oil leaks esp around valley cover. Suspension and steering seem ok. Brakes - pedal a bit low and spongy. Body - rust - a few bubbles here and there - but around front window cowl on both sides quite moderate needing immediate repair, lower rear wheel arch, lower drivers sill need repair and drivers door quite bad - most likely require replacement. rubber seals quite ordinary. Re painted many years ago and overall paint looks quite ok - does not appear patchy or oxidised - but some signs of repair. Original wheels quite dull, front driver headlight lens cracked, windscreen cracked - some side body mouldings require new clips. So interested in views on what would be a fair price and what sort of budget to allow to tidy up into decent order - not a show car - but a tidy original......

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I've no idea. If I was to guess, $1500. Sounds like it'd take a lot to bring it up to anything decent. I don't mean to knock it, but sounds like a few (expensive) issues, and probably more hiding waiting to surface.
But it'd make a great donor car for someone, I'm sure.

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im tidying an 83 caprice at present (very very slow progress due to young family) and mine sounds pretty similar to your description except mine has decent paint and no rust - you need to be a bit careful with these old girls as you can easily outspend the worth of the car IF thats a concern to you. if you dont mind spending some coin and have a really sweet driving car at the end of it, go ahead.

in my case, i feel my car is worth putting some $$ into it as it will be a nice weekend family cruiser that i am not afraid to drive (i'd be paranoid with a monaro, for example) and interestingly, was the mayors car here on the gold coast when it was new. i wouldnt be putting the effort or money in to try and make it worth more to sell, for example cause you wont get back what you put in...

to give you an idea, with my car i was right place right time and picked it up for $3000 unregistered, went well but oil leaking (mainly from fuel pump) really nice inside, all body moulds tek-screwed on by previous owner, some dodgy electrical gremlins to fix, etc - i figured it to be worth $5000 just as parts as i got it but of course i wasnt going to wreck it. without pics of yours id suggest try for $3000 or so because depending on how much work you can or cant do yourself will make the final dollar figure massively different when completed.

another thing to do is search the car sales sites, even gumtree and ebay, to get a rough idea on price. there are some nice ones on australian muscle car sales.com - remember, just cause a car has a certain price figure on it doesnt mean thats what its worth, or if the seller will get that for it, either.
also worth mentioning - you might find a nicer car for say $10-12k, that can be driven and enjoyed immediately, and probably cheaper in the long run than purchase cost and then rust/paint/mechanicals required on any project car.

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wb statos aren't really too popular. I reckon they're great. Ben is right though, you can prob source a well looked after car for less than it would cost to bring an average car up to shape

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thanks for the feedback - this was a car I was interested in purchasing. The owner said he was open to offers and I suggested about $3500 as I would need to budget up to $3000 to get the vehicle to a standard I think was reasonable and that's doing the work myself. I estimate I would then have a $6500 car - so neutral. Unfor the owner didn't take the offer all that well saying someone had offered by $7k in qld but he had to ship it there - I'm sure though that the person buying would change their mind when seeing the rust. I know you are better off paying nmore for a better car with minimal or no rust. I thought this one was worth preserving. It's hard to reason with owners though when people advertise for obscene prices - they don't sell but its what people use to then price their own car. recently there has been a few sell at the auctions that appear to be extremely good original low mileage cars around the $11k mark with a no rust claim. I was wondering if I was being too harsh - I just looked at it logically in the pic it looks good but as I have found out many times photos dont show reality - what may look quite good can be quite ordinary up close

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Is that the car in the foto? If so, I think my guesstimate was way too low. It looks OK? I expected a car a lot messier than that. I reckon your 3.5K is much closer.. Good luck, hope you get it.

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certainly looks ok in pics but knowing these old girls, it could be hiding lots of $$ in rust - i always prefer original paint where possible, as what you see is what you get - nothing worse than an otherwise mint looking paint job bubbling up in 6 months...

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the owner says he had it painted about 20 years ago because the original paint had started to oxidise. I had a sliver HZ caprice and it did the same thing after about 10 years - by the late 80s so I don't have reason to doubt him. Its def been patched around rear quarter windows where these rust and the drivers door is full of bog rusting from inside out, lower passenger sill quite bad and you would have to replace the front window cowls almost have holes right through which then makes you wonder about the plennum chamber - otherwise some rust bubbles here and there - it would be a car to tidy up and enjoy - but once you start cutting and grinding away rust it can be an Allidins cave - I'd just do a basic rust repair myself - cosmetically and maybe a panel or two painted after prep - it will just come back - it always does as well as more - with most of Adelaide close to the beach and wet in winter it isnt too kind to these and earlier model cars - most cars of these era rust and some very badly. He wont sell less than 5K it would need $1.5 to 3K to get it up to reasonable order and that's not including a working air conditioner - been there and done that a few times and you can budget at least a $1000 and go up with those systems from my experience - so I just wouldnt bother. I've never seen one of these with a working cruise control either - the old vacumm operated type

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Even though I agree that the WB Statesman hasn't so far followed previous models' value increases, they might have finaly started moving if the Shannons auction result is anything to go by. I didn't think it was worth what it got, by the way (been resprayed, non-original stuff on it), but I don't $3k WB Statesmans that are worth restoring won't be around for long...
https://www.shannons...

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avoid that car. if ol mate can get 7 for it, he should drive the trailer up there himself. from your description, its a 5 k repair to get it to paint...5 for paint minimum..interiors are $$ and unless you can just whip a new set of gaskets to stop leaks, your up for another 3k to sort mechanical.

its the sort of car that's still in the shed stripped down in 10 years as you see the cost spiralling waaay past its value

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had a very good second look at the car. The paintwork is actually quite good all round - about 6-7/10. The interior about 8/10. Seats under the lambswool covers are like brand new. Oil leak appears around the valley cover. Engine and trans , steering suspension all appear quite good - engine doesn't blow smoke, knock or rattle. No sign of any rust in boot, around rear window in plenum chamber, floors, inside guards, under doors etc etc - just some localised rust that will need to be dealt with is in both sides of front window cowl - which can be fixed cosmetically to start with and prevention - the lower corner of drivers door is the worst area - I will fix myself and probably just get the door painted below the side moulding. Using the unique car price guide a cond 3 is $6400 and cond 2 is $11000. This car would be somewhere between the 2 condition definitions provided. I bought it for $4000 inc 6 months rego which is worth almost $500 - the seller just wanted it to go to someone who would appreciate it and hopefully restore it to excellent condition. I'm going to start with a good tidy up, TLC with a minimal budget of $1k - so owing me $5k and have a nice tidy cruiser with a bit more get up and go than the 161 HR. There is plenty of evidence of servicing and it comes with all original paperwork and over 30 years of receipts including engine and transmission rebuild costing over $5k about 130,000km ago so should have some life left in it yet. I'm glad I had another look.

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Andrew

Andrew, that's a bewdy. The way you described it at first, I expected a basket case. You did well, nice find.

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Congratulations.

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Holdenpaedia, they're the brakes Mate.

There such a cruiser........I wish i had that front clip on my WB Ute ......need a second mortgage these days for a decent one.

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81wb

well done!!

they drive sooo well IMO. i keep saying it, but to me one of the most underappreciated cars australia has ever produced.

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Good on ya Andrew,looks like a nice cruiser for a good price!..

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thanks guys - looking fwd to giving this old girl a new lease of life. I think its going to tidy up really well with some good detailing. This will be my 5th caprice and 28 years of driving Statesman's. I like my old HR and enjoy my new VF - this kind of sits in the middle. I just like my cars neat and tidy - well maintained, all important things working and like to use and enjoy them. A few people I know have some very nice cars but they never leave the shed and some within the clubs only appreciate concourse standard.

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