Can someone help decode this please
8N80LA L493973 B 1
Body - 493793-A
Trim - 1189-63V
Paint - 568-10981
Eng - L14
Trans - M20
RRAxle - 6V7
Any help appreciated, The only one I know is M20 = 4 speed man.
What these codes mean:
L20 - 202.
L31 - 308.
L32 - high compression 253.
L33 - low compression 253.
M15 - Three speed column shift manual, (except 308 & 350).
M20 - Four speed floor shift manual.
M21 - Four speed close ratio floor shift manual.
M22 - Four speed floor shift manual, (wide ratio) (six cyl commercial only).
M40 - Trimatic three speed column or console shift auto.
M41 - Turbo-Hydra-Matic 400 three speed column or console shift auto (308 only). Replaced in May 1979 by Turbo-Hydra-Matic 350.
M38 - Turbo-Hydra-Matic 350.
RRAXLE (Rear Axle / Diff Ratio)
GU4 - 3.08:1.
GU7 - 2.78:1.
GU8 - 3.90:1.
GV2 - 3.36:1 - only applicable to V8 HQ's.
GV4 - 3.36:1.
GV7 - 3.55:1.
G70 - 2.60:1 .
Breakdown of the VIN. (Early HQ only)
Eg: VIN - 80170QH500025.
80170 Q H5 00025
Model number80170 - 6cyl Panelvan80270 - 8cyl Panelvan80180 - 6cyl Ute80280 - 8cyl Ute
Last letter of vehicle model year (HQ)
Assembly plant code
H1 - H4 = Brisbane
H5 - H9 = Sydney
J1 - J9 = Dandenong
L1 - L5 = Adelaide
L6 - L9 = Perth
Vehicle serial number
Breakdown of the VIN. (Late HQ, HJ-HX-HZ)
Eg: VIN - 8M70RH J598183Z.
8 M 70 R H J5 98183 Z
GMH Designation Model code
M = Commercial
N = Kingswood
70 = Panelvan
80 = Ute
EngineL = 3.3
LR = 4.2
LT = 5.0L
D = 1974
E = 1975
F = 1976
G = 1977
H = 1978
Assembly plant code
H1 - H4 = Brisbane
H5 - H9 = Sydney
J1 - J9 = Dandenong
L1 - L5 = Adelaide
Vehicle Serial Number
Q = HQ
J = HJ
X = HX
Z = HZ
PREFIX OPTION MODEL
8WM60 ... - ... CAB CHASSIS
8WM70 ... - ... PANELVAN
8WM80 ... - ... UTILITY
8WN80 ... - ... KINGSWOOD UTILITY
8WS19 ... - ... STATESMAN DEVILLE
8WS19 ... XV4 ... STATESMAN DEVILLE SERIES II
8WT19 ... - ... STATESMAN CAPRICE
8WT19 ... XW9 ... STATESMAN CAPRICE SERIES II
COMP.RATIO OUTPUT ENG.NO.SUFFIX
3.3 6-CYL 8.8 66 kW WL
3.3 6-CYL(AUTO) 8.8 71 kW WL
4.2 V8 9.0 100 kW WR
5.0 V8 9.2 126 kW WT
FINAL DRIVE STATESMAN
- 2.6 SALISBURY
- 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.90, 4.44
LIMITED SLIP OPT ON ALL
Thanks for the info, some of it is now more clear to me.
Any further info much appreciated.
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I have a hj gts with 60Y trim chamois. does anyone know the dash colour it is faded so its hard to tell?
does any one know the awnser to this one
Any HJ HX that I have had with chamois trim, has had a black dash, guru's at fastlane will know
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does anyone know what p/car means. it is at the end of the V.I.N No. on my atlas grey VN SS. can anyone help me?
P/CAR - means it was a government order vehicle for the Police Department.
P/Car is short for Police Car.
I have had a few over the years and the latest one I have with P/CAR is a 2002 VY Sedan.
In my specfic case, the VY was built 1 month, before offical release to the public.
Your VN SS in the Atlas Gray, would of served the purpose of a unmark patrol car or more like a D's vehicle.
Good luck with the SS, I owned one a few years back and it was in Atlas Grey with a 5 speed manual... heaps of fun!
P/car on the compliance plate means passenger car, it has nothing to do with it being a police car. A vn police car used in hwy patrol would have BT1 on the compliance plate.
The VY police pack actually has 'POLICE' on the compliance plate...
Old mate must have thought he was on a winner with each car he bought.
If This Topic Wasn't so old... P/car = Passenger Car
Check the dates and which comment was being responded to before you drop in a comment bro, otherwise you might appear foolish, you responded to a comment made 5 YEARS ago, the reason the thread popped up again was because of the question asked about chamois trim...
Is that the word Powerglide cast into side ...
Holdenpaedia, they're the brakes Mate.
No mate, it was in regards to Holden fan commenting that "the thread was so old but P/Car = passenger car", where the only reason it came up again was the question in relation to dash colour on cars with chamois trim
I know you have a lot of Powerglide experience, so I think you are the man to ask.
A poster indicated that "Powerglide" might be cast into the Case.
"You might have to scrape some crud off to read it but "POWERGLIDE" is in big letters on the side of the casing of the latter."
From this thread ...
Is the word Powerglide cast into the case on the Driver's Side (as shown in the linked Photo)? ...
Sorry mate, yes there is a big 'Powerglide' cast into the side of the casing.
Great Shot John.
YAY at last some wb info thank u cheers wb
the thing i found out the WB is that the rails crack as i found out the hard way.I have asked around and some say just weld it and others say replace the chassie.and i think some had HDT engines in them but no id tags with them. HDT must of had special on them,them were the days.
can any body tell me what the trim -193423c stands for
and paint code 56730525
can any one decipher this vin for me?
It's an HX Monaro GTS 4-door, 5 litre V8 made between 1 July 76 & 1 Sept 76.
There is something not quite right about the letters/numbers after the 'F'. The 'Z' shouldn't be there.
Hi im trying to find out my engine number I have all id tags 05/78 hz sedan bhz19096a vin 8n69lhl413429z body number 413429-a chassis number bhz19996a can you help
Cant give you an exact no. but it will be around QL965xxx give or take a couple of 1000. Your best bet would be go to your local rego authorities and trace back using the current rego and chassis no.
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It will be around QL950000
8 = Holden
Q69 = Monaro GTS sedan
T = 308
F = 1/9/75 - 30/8/76
H7 not Z7 = Pagewood, Sydney
85107 = Build number
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I was wondering, do you know how to find ou if a LX Torana is completly original or not just by checking the vin nubers?
hi do all these numbers belong to the one vehicle ??
vin 8D11LD L254019J
BODY NO A089790-82911
CHASSIS NO BLJ 30514A
PLEASE help THANKS "ARTY"
The #s on the front of my block read L 6 230810 TO62IIN Could anyone tell me hp and yr this is. Its in a 66 carpice, but I belive it was changed about 10 yrs. ago or longer. Only the block was changed. Thanks a million Bruce
i could only find a chasis number BLJ35528B on my lj wanting to know vin number and if holden or anywhere else can supply me with a vin number plate showing its original vin number?
hey mate i brought a lc 3 months ago and the guy reckons its an original gtr but it only has the 1 compliance plate wid the chasis number who can i find out if it is or not cause rta and torana club say i cant find out
hi it should be on lh side just above were the frount end shims are you cant miss them
Would anyone have information on a fx 48-215. I bought the vehicle and someone has removed the vin tag from the chassis. would someone know how to find the vin. I have all the information from the information plate which is positioned on the firewall and another on the front passengers side door appeture.
To the 48/215 owner, the plate on the passenger side door opening is the Vin number, they moved them there for 2 or 3 years, think it was 51, 52 and part 53 then back to the Chassis for FJ again, your car is called and "Airide or Intro" model, because it had tubular shocks and wider rear springs, instead of lever action shocks and narrow rear springs found on the earlier 48/215. In other words they has party tooled up for the FJ.
As far as I know the vin number was introduced in the early 70s so there is definitely none on the FX and highly unlikely on the LJ.
Howdy - need correct engine size/trim/colour/transmission for my gts
VIN # HGO 5583S
Trim - 1500-10x
Paint 503 - 1220
HK Monaro VIN
Howdy - Trying to find out the history of my gts monaro which will eventually become a show car. Does anyone now the code or should i just go to holden?
VIN # 80737KH553116
Body - 80737KR-02653-H5
Trim - 1173-10x
Paint 585 - 10846
80737 = Monaro GTS
K = HK, R = Right Hand Drive
02653 = Number of HK down production line, H5 = Acacia Ridge, Brisbane
Trim 1173 10X = Black, Paint 10846 = Warwick Yellow
Paint 585 = Type 'A' Lacquer, early in model run
The only way you'll find out that info is to go to monaroparts.com and E-mail the information to Byron who will consult Ben Stewart and let you know.
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gday dave would they have any info on hqss,i read that sdney paited the id tags on gts and Vic did not.
Probably. Byron knows Ben Stewart and Warren Turnbull quite well so, if anyone can find out, he can.
can any one decipher this vin for me?
i am buying a car of brother in law and need to know if it is a original hq monaro as he said it is could you help with numbers i can use to identify the vin to know it is original. thanks bud
Can anyone give tell me info on engine no.'s. I have a 308ci Holden in a ski boat and would like to no the age and what it is out of. Can you tell this from the engine no.
Check on the block above the waterpump, There will be something like 11B4, it indicates build date, i.e. 11 = 11th, B = Feb, 4 = 74.
I've come across a HJ and the owner say's that it is a 5ltr GTS Monaro here are some id numbers that may help you
ENG L31 TRANS M21 AXLE GV4
PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THIS CAR IS AS OWNER IS JUST ABOUT TO TOSS IT TO THE TIP AS NOT NEEDED
Buying a car and have some details regarding build, vin etc.. and want to verify cars authenticity, have some details but missing some data, can you help please?
Holden HZ Sedan
5/78 (date built I gather)
VIN 8Q69 THH956341Z
8 - GMH
Q - Monaro
69 - 4 door?
T - 308
H - 1978?
HP - ?
56341 - ?
Z - HZ
Model - 8WQ692R
Body - 956341-S
Trim - 938-18X
Parts - 567-3052S
Trans - M21 (4 speed close floor shift manual)
Engine L31 (308)
GV4 BRA? (GV4 diff 3.36:1)
Q69 = GTS/4
HP = Pagewood, Sydney.
paint 30529 = super mint metalic
trim 18X = slate black & cloth trim
The rest you got peretty right.cheers,
My man has bought another tonner and I'm trying to get insurance for it before he heads down the road. All the rego papers say is that it's a 76 HJ Holden. Naturally the insurance co. wants more info. They need the model and engine size before they will even think about insuring it. These are the numbers from the compliance plate. Many thanks in advance if anyone can help me. cheers Debbie Model HJ8WM60
Body no 136080-A. Eng L20 Trans M22 Frame GV7 (can't read anymore)Trim and pain are unreadable.
Your man will have to put his head under the bonnet !!!,the engine number is on the block not sure which side oops! its a six 202,your trans is a aussie four speed,hope that helps.
Cheers...Jewels.Hapy New YearPS chassis number is on chassis near steering box
Can anyone identify this VIN number for me? I want to know how much of it is original.
Body Number: 848997-S
Engine Number: L32
Rear Axle: GU7
Also does anyone know what the colour of this car and trim is?
And does anyone have a break down of how to identify what the codes mean.
car is Sydney built, so chassis and body numbers should match the id plate,,
M40= Trimatic (number should be M40, not L40),,
GU7= 2.78:1 diff,,
1896= Contessa Gold metalic,,
64V= Gazelle trim,,
search the Holdenpaedia for codes,,,,
Silence is Non Committal
OK IT SAYS
BODY 888674 - S
TRIM 1900 - 67V
PAINT 567 - 1 (PERSIAN SAND)
ENGINE L32 (253)
TRANS M20 (4 SPEED)
AXLE GU4 3.08 ratio
CHASIS NO. AHX09478A
ORIGINAL ENGINE NO. QR70062 ENGINE NOW WR64839 SN 0990434
.. THE OWNER MANUAL AND 30 MONTH WARRANTY IS FROM GARRY & WARREN SMITH 1575 DANDENONG ROAD OAKLEIGH 3166 PHONE 5690261. I KNOW THE CHASSIS IS NOT THE ORIGINAL ONE SO DOES THAT MAKE THE CAR STILL A HJ GTS MONARO. THANKS IN ADVANCE. JEN
67V= tan trim,
non matching numbers does not mean the car is no longer a Monaro, it just lessens it's value when numbers don't match,,
From what we can gather here, it appears as though Sydney was the only plant where all numbers matched, IE: body number on the firewall matched the numbers on the chassis and tags,,
Every other plant appears to have only matching numbers with the chassis and ID tags, and the body number on the firewall was insignificant,,
Yours has the matching body to the ID tag, (as per Sydney built), and has had an early Adelaide HX chassis swap,, chassis swaps are not all that uncommon, most either got bent or cracked, very few survive 30 odd years on the same car,,,,
Thanks for that mate
Could some one please tell me whether there is an australian website where i can enter my vin number from a LX torana
hey, yeah go to http://www.holdentor... just put ur VIN number in where is says.
Recently purchased an old ute off a neighbor Rego was expired and now want to register it but being formerly of the United States I am having a bit of trouble can anyone help. First by telling me where to find the Chasis number or if this is a valid vin#8M80DDJ4115420 what is DHQ14885M what is 411542M or HQ80180 apparently the engine number provided by the seller on the transfer document doesnt match the one on file.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Is located on the top of the drivers side chassis rail, just near the steering box,,,,
8M80D....... is the GM-H VIN no.(the last digit will be a Q not a zero), DHQ14885M is the chassis no., 411542M is the GM-H body no. & HQ80180 is the model number. What these numbers tell us is that it is an HQ Belmont ute with a 173 hi-comp 6 cyl engine, built in Melbourne in either late '73 or early '74.
Can anyone identify this trim and paint for an LH Torana.
Any help would br gr8!!!
Can anyone tell me what this trim code colour is 1192-10x?
Also can someone confirm that paint code 568-11401 is Kashmir White?
combination of Kashmir white, with black trim,,,,
please i am thinking about buying a car thats is apparantly a hz gts please tell me if this is correct
Model 8GN69ZR Body 969421S
Trim188767V Paint 56815950
Eng L32 Trans M40 Dif GU4
Please tell me greatly appreciated
8N69 is a Kingswood sedan,,,,
8WQ69, is a GTS,,,,
Can you please help me
I have 2 cars
I WOULD REALLY APPRICIAT IT IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW WHAT THEY ARE
Both are Kingswoods, the first is an HJ, the second is an HQ.
model hq80437 boby 064038e trim1845 21e paint567 13887 8n37rcj361464q i have been told it is a hq not a ls or gts can you help trying to get the right info trying to get ready for sale had someone look at it the other day and said it was ls
80437 is a base model V8 Monaro Coupe so what you were told is correct.
It is originally a 253 model built in Melbourne between 1/10/72 and 30/8/73
A V8 base model Monaro coupe is actually quite rare too.
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Paint, Patina Gold,,
Trim, Antique Saddle/Brown,,
Unless ID tags say different, 253, 3 Speed manual, 3.08:1 diff,,,,
help me can let me know what the id number m 24 on the id plate on a 1977 gst monoro,,,,,,,,,,,,,
can you please help me with a search on the following nos from a lx believed to be an slr. I would be rapt if you can assist.
vin bd69811523214x or maybe 8d698************
I WOULD LIKE CORRECT VIN NUMBERS FOR A LH OR LX TORANA SLR OR SLR 5000 PLEASE
check the 2nd post on this thread, or post your numbers up here if you still cant decipher it. LH and LX are 2 different models, im guessing your looking for one? i know someone whos selling one, usual rust etc
Well actually it is 8D69R which makes it a 253 SLR.
Hi, i have found an LX Torana that I am thinking of buying.
The current owner says its an SS A9X but it has no id plates because it was stolen many years ago. It has a Vic police number and a Vin or Chassis number BLX 022567M
Is there anyway to tell what the car is by this number?
The car is a coupe has A9X flares and bonnet scoop, HQ stud pattern and GTS type wheels is Orange with black bonnet, ss dash etc.
Can anyone help?
I'm pretty sure that chassis number isn't an A9X. But if you get in contact with the A9X Torana club of Australia, they have a data base of the all the info of the vehicles that went down the production line.
statesman caprice 1984 just spent money on bilsten shocks about a week of driving her she let out a nasty sound left hand front the bloody chassie broke .wondering what to do .sell her or restore her.thax chris
It can be repaired...
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Okay I've read all the explanations for VIN's and so far I think my ute's got about 4 Motors, a couple of bodies and a Clutch out of a Victa lawn mower! Try this for me 8N69LHH951502Z. It's got a 4.2 V8 on One tonner chassis with steel tray.
I was hoping someone here with a lil more brains than me could tell me how to identify between a 308 and 253??????? I just got given a 1982 WB ute and the original donk has been replaced with a v8! The plates say that it was L14 engine (which is a high comp. 202 i think), Any help in working this out would be great, could be the diiference between creating a GREAT ute or selling it off!
either its got 308 or 253 on the side of the block
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i have a hx and would like to deceipher the codes.
model HX8W N 69
BODY NO 239025-A
ENG L32 TRANS M40
ALSO S THERE SOMEWHERE TO FIND ALL THE CODE FOR THE ACCESSORIES
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
You HX is a Kingswood Sedan built in Adelaide
Original engine was a 253 with a trimatic transmission and a 3.08 diff
Paint was (I think) Deauville Blue Metallic
Origanal colour Orange, Runs factory 350 & turbo 400 trans.
More info on history of car and build dates.
would like to now if it is origanal GTS.
there was no factory 350 in the HJ GTS,,
and if you would like info then post the numbers or find the info yourself in the holden paedia,,,,
As Arsewipe said, the last factory 350s were in the HQs.
i have a lh slr tags LH8VD69 NASCO L34 M22 GV7 CAN ANY ONE TELL ME WHAT I HAVE THANKS SREVE
Like the guys were saying on GM-H Torana, it is most likely a replacement body shell. However theL34/M22 codes are weird. If your willing, e-mail me the VIN (and the chassis number from body, not plate). I will get back to you with what you've got.
LH8VD69 are in fact LH SL/R compliance plates an they are exactly what i need because the LH SL/R i rescued from the wreckers many years ago an was lead to believe by them i was getting it before they had a chance to rip her heart out,but i was lied to an recently found out that the former owner of that wrecking yard underhandedly swapped plates on me leaving me with an original LK SL/R 6cyl which is rare as hens teeth with bloody stock sl compliance plate,so there fore you have in your possesion exactly what i need to give my sl/r its dignity back.
if there is any chance at all your willing to sell me those plates,please email me at daworldismine2day@ms... an name your price,
but if you dont want to sell them then cherish the piece of torana history with a smile.
g'day mate, sounds like you brought the torry off eBay.
the paint code is primer yeh?
it seems like you scored an slr5000 with a replacement body shell, chances are it was writtten off back in the day when they were still available. u probly should add some contact details as their are a
few blokes here that really know their stuff and could help you. *but then again the other 90% dont know much but they like to assume, posted info will just be a debate to try and prove they are supereior.
still spewin (not really, i got more than a couple of cars to keep me entertained):P
I have two HQ gts.
1 02/1974 308 vin8Q69tdl263621Q
2 04/1973 253 vin 8N69RCH274871Q
Both look identilcal but suspect the 253 is a V/G replica.
Am i correct?
Yes, #1 is a 74 GTS built at Elizabeth, Adelaide VAP. #2 is just a 253 Kingswood.
I have two HQ GTS monaros
VIN 8N69RCH274871Q 4/1973 253
VIN 8q69TDL263621Q 2/1974 308
After checking your web i suspect the 253 could be a V/G replica.
I wish to add Model No HQ80469
Trim 1865 30x
As mentioned in this thread (I think),
The early HQ's used the Kingswood designation, and the late switched to the GTS code,
The trim code (black) tells me that it is a genuine GTS,,,,
The 308 is a 74 308 GTS built at Elizabeth, Adelaide VAP. The 253 is just a Kingswood.
then why does the kingswood have GTS trim? (30X)
GTS designation was not used until late (74), before that, it was on a kingswood base, it is a GTS, not a kingswood,,,,
My mistake. I missed the earlier date. I was going off code information collected years back, which I confirmed with the following information from P.120 of AMC #24:
"In an unusual move, a change in the luxury level(trim design/comfort level)occurred during the model run. In July 1973, the Kingswood luxury designation(N) was changed to GTS(Q)".
I believe 30X refers to Black vinyl. Is it the case that GTS are the only Kingswood that came with black vinyl? I just assumed not. But My apologies to all involved if I'm wrong and this is the case.
the 'X' gives it away, it is a GTS designation,,,,
What is the VAP. mean?
1. (in classical mythology) a unique bird that lived for five or six centuries in the Arabian desert, after this time burning itself on a funeral pyre and rising from the ashes with renewed youth to live through another c
Vehicle Assembly Plant.
Have been givin Aus Muscle Car magazine Issue 24 2006,covers GTS vin numbers only.
States,in an unusal move, a change in the luxury trim design comfort level occurred during the model run. In July 1973 the Kingswood luxury designation N was changed to GTS luxury Q
Thanks all Gaz
The colour code is 1865-Cyan metallic.
Can any one tell me what this is. eg green red blue etc.
So far i have all matching numbers, this is my last item,if it's metallic blue i will buy a lotto ticket.
Have a squizz in my Other Cars part of my Shed. There are a few pics of my LJ painted Cyan Metallic which is a metallic Blue.
Buy me a Lotto ticket too... :-))
BOUGHT A 1978 HZ MONARO AND GOT ENGINE Nos QT958251 IS THIS ORIGINAL OR JUST AN ENGINE
Well it's a 308 and the serial number is looking pretty good to be a HZ engine.
What is the date code on the engine block?
It is a 3 or 4 digit code on the top front of the engine block (just near the top of the water pump)
Post that here and the build date of your car and we'll be able to get a better idea if it's the original engine.
Is your HZ originally a 308?
please answer my querry
10/77 hz gts
Can someone make sense of this?
Vin number is the most concerned, cheers.
HZ Holden GTS Sedan, built in Adelaide
Engine = 308 V8
Transmission = M21 4 speed manual
Diff = 3.36:1 ratio Salisbury
Trim = Buckskin & Cloth
Paint = Super Mint Metallic
The engine number identifies it as a 308 and it is a high number so possibly the original engine but we would need the date code from the engine to be able further substantiate this.
Hay ive got this torana and id like to no if its a actual XU1 how do i tell off the compliance plates, the reason i ask is because everything on it is XU1 but i want to no if its a mock up or the real thing
Stoik go and check out www.gmh-torana.com post your numbers up there plenty of those blokes have XU1's and I believe someone has the Vins for all the XU1's.
hi im looking at a hj 4 door monaro and just want to make sure thanks any help is appriciated
r axel gv4
any help is much appriciated thanks
What you have there is a Sydney built HJ GTS Monaro sedan.
It was originally a 308 with an M21 4 speed manual transmisison.
Original colour is "Persian Sand Metallic" with "Gazelle" trim.
can someone help me with these numbers i wont to know if the car is a SLP or not and if all is as seems is it a LH body with LX plates ? any help.
vin 8D69LF J516665X
trim 1916 18V
this info was on another plate 5/76 lx torana ALX004195M or ALX004135M
i think this is off the chassis or body of car BLH047137M
Hi Holden Fan.
Yes, you are correct. It looks like an LH body with ID plates off an early LX 6-cyl manual Papaya-coloured SL/R.
Hi I have a vh commodore and on my tag and it telling me it is a L36 can you please tell me what size motor that is. I am also having trouble locating the vin number on my tags I have model, body number, trim, paint and the manufacture tag. Thanks for your help
i was wondering if i had an original sandman or not, can you plz halp.
can you plz tell me if its a sandman, and how you can tell the difference.
i have looked through lots of comments and think it is a sandman but want to be certain.
everyone i ask has a different opinion.
so if i could find out how to tell it would lift a huge wieght off my shoulders
here are my details:
Body No: 3807550
Trim: 1888 19V
ENG: L32 TRANS: M20 RRAXLE: GU4
IT ALSO HAS XX7 ON THE PLACARD
which i was told ment it was a genuine sandman if it is brisban built which it is.
it has a 2 seat cap.
and is 1950 kg
Yep, definitely sounds like a Sandy to me.
To be absolutely sure, go to monaroparts.com and E-mail Byron Rich (the site owner). He will be able to tell you for sure and collects Sandman details too, so would welcome your details for his register.
i have had 15 HQ Holdens, all pre 73, I have just aquired another but can't figure out the vin. Can someone please help.
Vin is 8P69PDL2728250. All tags are in place.Build date 6/74.Axle GU3?ENG----- Trim 1864-35 R. Paint 867-15331.Car seems to be 25th anniversary Premier.???? Has full instrument dash inc tach.Seems original.
just wondering wat sort of hq this number belongs to thanks
i have a torana lj gtr that has been in the shed for ten years im wondering if it is genuine
the car is in good condition except for crows feet i the paint and a bit of rust in the usual places it has a worked 186 bored out to 192 blue printed and balanced 4 speed box and a 308 slippery diff
the paint is not original it is cyan blue but the original colour is that crappy silver it came out in
the model numbers are lj82911m body numbers 121598 trim nos 184840x the numbers on the dating plate are 9/73 blj52242b could you please send me an email to clarify originality
Hi I was wondering if anyone could help me with the details on the compliance plate on the HK monaro I just purchased. Also how do I find out what size engine it originally had?
can someone please help me with some questions please about hj monaro codes?model-8WQ69JR BODY-841450-S TRIM-188618Y PAINT-56815949 ENG-L31 TRAN-M21 AXLE-CV4 BUILT-1/1975 BHJ 102028
SMALL PLATE NO. 8069TEH841450J
FIREWALL NO. ( 10160 S ) HELP REQUIRED TO DECODE NUMBERS AND LIKE TO KNOW ,DOES BODY MATCH THESE TAGS AT ALL
8d69rej473856 vlh036568m l32 m40 gu7 what is it
hi im andy i am looking for a SLR 5000 i would like to know what to look for in the vin how can i tell if its real or not. & if there is anyone who has one for sale in perth or HQ 2 door please email me asap on email@example.com
my numbers arrent matching from the one on the body(right hand lower chassi number)to the compliance plate,,,and lso are they v8 or 6 tags..on the actual body..alh023419m...on compl..mod#lh8vbg9..again on comp..body..454153m..it would be realy appretiated if someone can help me...
can sum help me with these tags please vin 8039qh209287 model hq80369a body no 03765b trim 1829 11g paint 567 13124. thanks mark
i been searching this forum but cant figure out a few numbers in my vin and complience plate.. can anybody please help me work out what it all means.. will be greatly appreciated.. thanks
complience plate build date- 12/72. however what does this number mean? - chq 67608 m. thanks.
I don't have ALL the info available to me ATM, so from memory, your car is/was:
Built in Dec 1972
Is is a Melbourne built car.
I can't remember whether 8M69 is a Kingy or not but I think it was originally a 253.
If I can get Net access tonight (trouble with phone lines at home), I'll look up the rest of your VIN in my books at home and post tonight.
hi i have an lc gtr torana with a paint code that is 567 10974 i was wondering if someone would be able to tell me what the original colour of the car is. From the information i have found on this site i believe that the HT monara has the same code for one of the colours but still have been unable to find out what colour that is. any help would be greatly appreciated.
can anyone tell me what the codes stand for on my monaro. Currently it has a 307 in it, and I want to know if the VIN numbers indicate whether it has a 307 or 327 in it?
The firewall has HK25700M stamped into it.
im trying to identify my lh torana with red paint with the window blckouts an the sl/r badge on the rear.it is also a six cyl so im forever having idiots telling me somehow its just a sl an trying to buy it from me for a insult of a price,it goes without saying how they dress and speak.im sick of it an i want to identify it once an for all to show what it actually is as the paint work an badge suggest sl/r.
model # LH8VC69
eng # HL45090
vin # 8C69LE J484443H
body # 484443M
grbox # m40 which i know means automatic
raxel # GU7 which is a 2.78 ratio banjo
eng # L20 which is a 202
its the first numbers im having trouble locating and identifying so any help here would be appreciated.
can anyone at all help me to identify my vehicle,i can tell you its definately an sl/r body but its the vin plates an the make an model plates im having trouble with.i do know the lh sl/r and slr 5000 was based on the sl torana,especially the six cylinder sl/r version, both being with out the flare kit even though with upgrades making them better than the standard sl.
im asking it to be identified so that i have something to show people who all assume(we all know that assumption is the mother of all mess ups)they all assume that an slr has to be the lx slr 5000 with the 308 motor with the flare kit,the beast as its known,an im sick of people making that idiotic assumption which only shows their own limited knowledge of holdens grand history.
any help id'n my lh sl/r as a genuine sl/r or one that has sl plates would be a great help as to redirecting the unknowledgable people to catch up on their history of holdens or back to their own driveways to attempt relations with their fords.
Sorry, mate, I'm not too sure on the Torry codes although I do know there was an SL/R3300, SL/R4200 as well as the SL/R5000.
Maybe get Cuddy's Vin Code Program from Holdenpaedia and check it out on that as it seems most of our Torry guys are away ATM.
Alternatively, gmh-torana.com would be a good place to check.
yes the sl/r 3300 is the 202 version the slr 4200 was also lh torana with the 253 and the beast slr 5000 was the beast with the flare kit an the 308 in it,which is what my car is continuosly an unfairly compared to,an called a sl just because it has no flare kit an 308,so im just trying to make sure i have what i think i have which is rarer than flying pigs if i can confirm it.
thanks for the websites,i will try them.
Actually, the SL/R5000 only had the bobtail and front spoiler standard, no flares.
It was the L34's and A9X's that had the flares standard.
A mate of mine used to have an LX SL/R5000 in the metallic purple colour and it had an L31/M21/2.78 Banjo LSD but no flares...
its no Sl/R, sorry mate, just a SL had a 202 so its probably the original engine.
Results for VIN Number - 8C69LEJ484443H
Manufacturer: General Motors Holden
Series / Trim level SL
Body Style: Sedan
Car Year: 1975
Assembly Plant: Dandenong
Production Serial Number: 84443
Model Code: LH
thanks everyone for your input.
i have now contacted the eliabeth GMH plant here in south australia an it seems the number plates where registered to an sl/r 6cyl previously so it seems along the lines the plates have been swapped on me,i dare say at the auto wreckers where i found it.apon calling them,the man i spoke to pretty much admitted taking the plates until i mentioned i was the current owner an not happy,then he just clammed up an denied any knowledge an claimed the former owner of the auto wreckers who has now apparantly an conviniently moved over seas or interstate(as the two answers i got from him being lies) so thank you for all of your help an i now know that nothing is sacred when it comes to those butchers or motor vehicles,an my car which is a sl/r,has her plates registered to another car while im left with sl plates on my car.so much for finding a sleeper to hang on to an thats crushed my faith in common decency.
Hi i have 2 four door sedans a Hj & a Hx the X seems to be original but not sure on the J.
eng date code 1K3
can any one please help
I just bought a HX 4 door Monaro. I checked all the numbers as per your forum and its all good. Im confused because somewhere back in time someone flared the guards (yuk) and repainted it. It has dual headlights and a premier? grille. Can I send pics to someone to tell me whats right and whats wrong?
The model codes of Q69 means they are both GTS Monaro sedans.
Kingswood would be 8N69. Premiers would be 8P69
So both are genuine and both were originally 308's
Cheers Mate Thanks For Info
Hi I am selling this for a 77yo who is selling everthing,Can someone please tell me if these numbers a a genuine GTR,if pics are required just give me your email.LC 20341A,,,6/71,,,model-LC 82911,,,body-3395-A,,,trim-1809-40V,,,paint567 12191.
Cheers Michael(its like new)
I don't have a lot of that sort of info' on LC/LJ's but an 82911 is a genuine GTR.
As I said above, grab Cuddy's VIN program from Holdenpaedia as that may well have the other information you want in it.
gday, i have a hx monaro that has been repainted black and the interior reupolsted in cloth, could you please help me to restore it to its original glory with the right colours,, the codes on the ID plates are
any help would be greatly appreciated cheers brad
I think it is: Sierra Tan Metallic and Chamois interior.
can anyone tell me what these numbers mean
HQ81269 = HQ V8 Premier Sedan
HQ Premier Sedan
Built in Melbourne between 1/9/73 to 30/8/74
Supposed to be a HJ with an injected 308.....
Can you please decipher the codes for me?
The engine appears to have a NSW Police Issued number which means it has been stolen and recovered but the number was defaced or, more likely, it has been decked and the original engine number was removed in that process.
That VIN means nothing to me. It isn't a normal HJ VIN in any case.
By the sounds of it, check this ute out VERY thoroughly, including with the Rego authorities in your State.
I've rung Canberra Federal Police who can identify the rego as legit and ok with those two numbers. Turns out they have the C... registered as the chassis number not the VIN but they are one and the same arn't they? Anyhoo, they have notes in their computer saying that the chassis number was double-stamped and illegible to read, and they re-stamped it in August 2004 with clearance from the Aust Federal Police, and this is the same engine number in the vehicle at that same time. The NSW police would not look up the engine number for me so I can't get any confirmation out of them. But would I be right in assuming that all numbers are cleared by the Australian Federal Police then I will be okay purchasing vehicle? (though this will be a very good bargaining tool in bringing the price down....)
Holdens have a body and a chassis number. The chassis number is the one usually used for rego purposes. If the Rego people confirm they stamped both those numbers on it, it should be OK.
If you can have a look at the ute, note the numbers on the body tag(s) and post them here. Then we can decipher more information about the ute...
Well I emailed the seller with all I had learnt about the chassis number and what you told me about the engine number and he replied as follows:
"when i changed the rego from nsw to act they found the police stamp and it was taken to forensics for a week. they found the engine had been in a stolen car that was recovered and then was sold at police auction. everything was all cleared and i got it back. the vin i gave you was on the rego papers but i will try to find that and the other numbers for you. i purchased the car from a airforce bloke in londonderry nsw, him and is brother or uncle did all the work on it (engine, paint etc) my sister and brother in law are cops in sydney but i dont think they will be able to do any enquirys into it as they are in different fields eg sepcial opps and youth leaison. so i will try to get the numbers to you and it should be all good"
and today he got these numbers from the car for me:
Sorry Fiona, forgot to look up the info for you last night...
The short version:
HJ ute, Melbourne Built, Cotillion White with Gazelle trim (no idea on what Gazelle Trim is...).
Are you sure the Engine Code is LD1? If it is L31, the ute is an original 308 powered vehicle. M40 is a Trimatic and GV4 (not CV) is a 3.36:1 diff in an HJ.
No idea on Gazelle either, isn't that some kind of African animal or something?
I was guessing the Melbourne build, the CV4=GV4 & LD1=L31 too. It's fascinated me actually, like lookng into a previous life. The ute is now 2 pak black, the 308 inside is obviously not from this car originally, but now has VN-VT injection heads on it, there's now an M21 c/r box instead of the trimatic and the interior is black/grey.
I got through to Vicroads yesterday finally and was able to confirm that these numbers are on a national register and I'll have no problems at all registering them. Now I just have to wait for my money to come though to buy the car... lol
Cheers very much for all your help!!
Sounds like it's a nice ute Fi...I'm jealous! :-)
Happy to help.
Is the there a website or can anyone expalain what the modern (Post 1983) VIN numbers in AUSTRALIA represent? I've search the net but could find anything.
The VIN introduced in 1968 runs to 1972. (starts 8 then number)
The 72 system runs to 88. (starts 8 then letter)
(Ashlie's programme covers these two for some models)
The 88 system runs to VY and also replaces the chassis number, this is why the rego papers have chassis/VIN. Chassis number applies to pre VN Holdens and VIN to post VN (starts 6H8)
The VY on is still in use. (starts 6G1)
So 83 is the same as late HQ.
Gday does anybody know what an L15 is on my plate? I have a kingswood wb ute and the plate reads
L14 in a WB is the normal 3.3 (202) 6-cyl. The same code is used for that engine in VB, VC, VH & VK Commodores. It was L20 for HQ to HZ.
hey guys, just wanted to know if it's possible to get the original matching firewall number from the rest of the i.d. plates, and if anyone can give me hand decoding these. thanks in advance for your everyones time, cheers
I don't usually try decoding for people coz i'm slow and every time i get back with the info, someone's gone and done it, lol. But [Naughty Pottyword] it's quiet here today so might go amuse myself and get what i can for you.
One thing though, The number stamped into your firewall isn't going to match your tags, they just don't.
JUNK IS...Something you throw out three weeks before you need it.
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Pam's gone out and has the keys to the shed so i'm locked out and can't get the info.
If your unsure if the car is originally a six or eight, Look where the speedo cable exits through the firewall. If it exits just under the wiper motor then she's a 307 and if exits near the brake booster then it's a 186s. Sorry i can't help further.
Are you telling my you can't break into your own shed???
Your shed got windows Dusty? No spare bricks lying around? lol
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Loyalty is a thing of the past.
O.H.T.C. original member
I made myself a promise that if i ever catch anyone breaking into that shed that i would proudly stand trial for a minimum of visious assault accasionating grevious bodily harm (spelling...i know). NO EXEPTIONS, lol, and i'm not into self mutilation. (to get in there i'd have to wreck [Naughty Pottyword] coz it's Fort knoxed).
BTW, Window has bars not unlike a jail cell :-D
thanks for the quick reply mate, shes definatly a 307. yeh, the firewall isn't supposed to match the tags unlike the hg and the 3 tags, but i wanted to know if the original firewall number could somehow be known from the other tag numbers or would gmh have a record of them??
GMH were no help when i tried to, not decode, but just find out if my HK (80737k) was a GTS. That was a couple of years ago just before i discovered the internet. The lady on the phone said GMH shredded everything to do with early models and there was no way she could help. I never bothered GMH again. I hear of people obtaining verification letters and/or info but i had no such help.
Warren Turnbull or Byron Rich have a Monaro register but i'm unsure what that is for or does (These guys live at Fastlane).
Are the numbers your referring to in the engine bay side of the firewall? Where is the number on the firewall meant to be on a HZ? Is it stamped or stencilled with white paint? What do the numbers on the firewall usually mean?
I have 2 HZ's (1. sedan and 1. panel van) both built with 253's.
Ecoimpact the firewall numbers generally only appeared on Sydney and Adelaide built cars. I had 2 Syd HZ both 78's and 1 did and 1 didnt. The numbers themselves mean nothing at all and they are stamped just above the heater box pad.
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Do the firewall nunmbers mean anything with my other details?....listed in the following
Not as easy to do as i thought. But here's what i come up with and for those in the know, If i stuffed it up, PLEASE say so for the holden fan's sake and my own as i'd be horrified to lead him up the wrong track.
Your car is a sydney built car.
Paint is Pickardy Red.
Trim is black.
Dusty's brain hurts. (might stick to the shallows in future, lol)
What motor is it.Pete.
Bogans have more fun.
I have a lj torana gtr which is a two owner vehicle,This car has travelled 150thousand kilometers in its 34 years, and is in mint condition, I have owned this vehicle for 23 years, all the numbers match according to the original log book and rego certicicate. Some one was looking at the car recently and noticed the number on one of the tags right side front, had the number 8D11LPH32575, IS A NUMBER FOR AN XUI BODY, NOW THESE I D PLATES ARE STILL ORIGINAL AND HAVE NEVER BEEN REMOVED, THECAR WAS BUILT IN THE 12 MONH OF DECEMBER 1973 AT ACACIA RIDGE BEISBANE PLANT AND SOLD BY zUPPS OF IPSWICH. THIS IS DEFINALLY A GTR TORANA STILL HAS THE ORIGINAL JL MOTOR BUT nOW THIS NUMBER THING HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, I WAS WONDERING HOW THIS COULD BE ,OR DID THE GM BOYS MAKE A MISTAKE AT THE PLANT WHEN THEY STAMPED THIS NUMBER, PERHAPS THIS CAR WAS DESTINED FOR XU1 BUT WAS DOWN GRADED AND MADE TO A GTR, , I WAS WORKING AT THIS PLANT IN 1973/74 AS DIE SETTER, AND AS THIS WAS THE CHANGE OVER PERIOD FOR THE NEW MODELS , THE PLACE WAS BUZZING. CAN ANY ONE PUT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE. john
RECENTLY I BOUGHT A HZ GTS WITH ALL THE RIGHT NUMBERS AND I AM WONDERING IF THE ENGINE IS GTS,THE NUMBERS ARE QT958251
It is the correct prefix and the number is in the correct range for a HZ.
Check out the casting date on the top front of the engine block to find out exactly when the engine was cast to get a more accurate idea.
AFTER READING YOUR ADVISE OF FINDING THE CASTING No I CLEANED THE GREASE AND FOUND 1908, AND THE BUILD DATE IS 5/78, ENGINE No IS QT958251, THIS IS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TO MUNROMAD
I would guess that the 0 in 1908 is probably either a C or a D which would indicate a casting date of 19March78 or 19April78.
Either of these would be a likely candidate to be the original engine.
The only way to find more info is to have the original sales documentation which lists the engine number.
I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that it is the original engine based on the engine number and casting date.
THANK YOU MUNROMAD, YOUR HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED, I AM NOW SATISFIED THAT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL ENGINE, AND THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE RESTORATION BUS DRIVER
g'day one and all.
i'm trying to find out numbers about my lc. it's a two door with gtr guards (appears the whole front end has been replaced at some stage). i think i may be missing a plate as the only thing i can find is a plate that goes on the radiator support panel and a stamped number that is on the inner guard (passenger side). both numbers correspond (27991A).
this is all i can find. i know the engine certainly isn't original- the fact that it's a black motor with dry sump and turbo set up sorta gives that away!
i have rego papers with the car (currently unregistered)and all that it says is what i've stated here.
am i missing a plate and if so how do i find out paint codes etc.
any help would be appreciated
well i thought i had a 253 hz gts until i took a better look at ID tags. can someone help me figure the rest of it out
ENG L31 .. 308
TRANS M21 .. 4 speed
RRAXLE .. GU4 3.08:1
MODEL 8WQ69ZR ... GTS 4 Door HZ
TRIM 1930-18X ???
PAINT 568-30521 ???
Q69 GTS 4 Door
H9 Sydney ... which plant ??
XXXXX Vehicle Serial Number
Hoping what Ive got here is correct .. please advise me if its not and could someone please help with Trim and Paint codes. I think its Palias White paint and its got black with cloth insert trim but not sure if this is what was original. So much for it being 253 from Brisbane .. spose its better to check id for myself rather than takeing anothers word for it.
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Although made in Sydney, your GTS could have been purchased in Brisbane...
According to the info I have available to me, it is/was Palais White with Slate Black and Cloth interior.
I don't know whay Holden used a series of codes for each plant but they only had one plant in Sydney (Paigewood).
must say was quite a bonus to find it was an original 308 GTS .. now the hard part ... getting it back to melb when i move back there and rebuilding it
Can someone help me out with this,looking at buying a LX rolling shell but a bit concerned about the numbers he has given me.
Both of these are chassis numbers, if they are both on the same car then it has had a front end change, ie large front end accident and the front RH rail replaced with another from a wreck.
Thanks for that,i might be better off going and checking the car out.
VIN number is on thin long metal plate has 14 characters made up of letters and numbers..
Hi, does anyone know how to read the VIN's for the Torana gPak? Mine says;
I have not had anything to do with Torana's but I'll have a crack. The VIN's follow the same basic rules as Monaro's etc.
I think it is a 202 LH Torana "S" sedan.
Were the G Packs based of "S" models?
The Gpack was based on a Torana S and that is what the VIN states, 202 Torana S.
If it was built in Brisbane it will have the vehicle option code on the big tag, other plants you cannot tell.
I am wanting to find more info from the plates?
Body No: 169853-A
It's an Adelaide built HJ Belmont Panel Van.
Paint colour is Absinth Yellow
I'm not sure on the trim code as I don't have a 19V listed. If it turns out it is 18V then it is slate black.
L32 = 253 engine
M20 = aussie 4 speed manual
GU4 = 3.08:1 diff
8D69RHJ601641X IS THIS A SLR ENG- L32 TRANS-M20
8d69rhj601641x is this an slr lx
i have just bought 10th month 77 hz gts monaro 4 door could someone check numbers for me i am conserned that the "H" in the vin number means it was built in 1978
model no HZ8WQ69
Body no 433962B
Trim 1926 18X
paint 568 30517
Rear Axle GV4
Vin no 8Q69THH433962Z
Engine no QT898689
No on Top of Block 8J7
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