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I have a 1937 Holden Maple Leaf 4 1/2 tonne truck if any one is interested

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wasnt the first holden built in 48?

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When the clutch drops, the bull[Naughty Pottyword]ting stops...

From what I was told it is a chev put together in the holden plant, I am looking at the compliance plate right now and it is stamped in bold writing at the HOLDEN

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Might it be a Chev chassis and drive train and perhaps Holden body.Thats how it all started I believe.Iether way its still a good score if its any good.

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General motors of canada bulit trucks up to 2.5 ton these were fitted with a cab made by holden and the running gear including the motor were chev
I own a 1946 GMC truck made in canada ,2 1/2 ton the chassis is chevolet truck the closest is the maple leaf 1600(searching for parts)anyone got any ???
chev trucks at the time only went to 2 ton
maple leaf were a little more heavy duty
Gmc were top of the range in solid construction and went 2.5.ton or better
however if you have an old chev truck made in usa then the cab will be american not canadian (maple leaf), not holden unless its been butchered
Cab shapes are roughley the same.. difference being the rear cab mounts have support going into the upper rear section of the cab ,,, some cabs do not have the small quarter window
lend lease was another chev truck after the war years but thats another story
if you have any 1946 gmc 5 bolt wheel studs or maple leaf 1600 parts to sell etc i would be interested
If you are restoring an old chev/lend lease truck i have access to some parts if needed 10 bold wheel studs
Australia only Sorry Guys Postage is a killer for O/s

here is some pics of my old truck

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gmc made in canada prior to 1953 used chev parts

some links regarding chev gmc etc

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hi guys, i am currently hunting down any information on this type of ute i have 3 or 4 original photos. i have a picture on our website www.borthwick.com.au. Any information that relates to a sale of a vechicle will be paid for. email me at scott@borthwick.com.au

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Gopd Evening,

My late father left me a 1946 Chev Maple Leaf. Needs a bit of work. I am selling & have pictures if your interested. There's the chasis, original doors, hub cups, grill etc

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Is this chev still available

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What details for grill, please Bridgetown 08 97611061

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Hi,

I have a 1946 Chev Maple leaf truck you may be interested in

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4 1/2 tons seams a bit heavy in that era for Holden. Its my understanding that they were a lot lighter than that around the 1 1/2 ton mark.

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S@#^$t yeah. Now your talking. Rare as.
Whats she like,still running.

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I got it from a clearance sale last year the farmer used to cart his round bales on it, I took the cab and panels off and and put them in a small shed where the horse used to sleep to keep the elements off it ,I would love to restore it but I dont think I will ever get around to it.
this is what the plate reads

HOLDENS
body no. 52
model bed.cab
series rev
job no mkd

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I have an old electric stove that has printed on it 'made by general motors holdens.' It's the 'holdens' that caught my eye, not holden or holden's. Maybe my stove is worth restoring.
Anyway my point is what did holden do before manufacturing cars and were they first known as 'holdens'? Was steel fabrication their specialty?
Jeremy.

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We have a fridge with general motors holdens stamped in the back of it.Still works.The original owner said it came with a lifetime guarantee.Was bought new in the early 40's she thought.......Merry Christmas all,drive safe Cheers Paul.

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is she for sale/trade or are you teasing us you saddist?

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I have one of these as well. It is still working and has a GMH part number on the back and badge on the front. Needs a little bit of attention. I was thinking of restoring it or maybe selling it to another collector. Any ideas?

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I too have an old Holden stove, its still in perfect working order, are these worth anything as collectables

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Don't forget to keep us tuned in on this one newtzy33
Machinery of that era is very interesting.
Go on restore it,you know you want to, or at least if not that, complete it to running so nothing goes missing if that may be a problem.You have to look after it when its a rare piece of Aus history but its more than likely a good truck also.A good score in my books.

Edburt.

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The Holden Brothers made bodies for a lot of different makes going back to the 1920s. They were known as Holden Body Works, in 1947 or so General Motors bought the factory to make the Holden car.An early example of an overseas multinational buying a local company instead of doing all the hard work of establishing their own, like Vegemite or Arnotts.

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hi i am have 35 maple leaf and are after doors and gards
would yuo like to sale them
email me on sfmf@westnet.com.au

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Geez some of you blokes need an education... Holden Brothers?... It isnt Dodge were talking about here....

Let me enlighten you.... Holden Was formed in 1917 as a motor body Builder. This meant they were fabricating bodies for all sorts of cars . Originally James Alexander Holden came to this Country in 1854 and set up shop Adelaide as Holden and Frost - doing Saddlery work.
In 1914 it made its fist motor body. In 1931 The general Motor Corporation came from the states ( USA) and it became General Motors Holden's Limited. or as you know it -GMH.
Our first true Holden was built in 1946 in Detroit. Official Production was in 1948 - with the relaese date of the very first FX or 48-215 as it was officially known- was 20 November 1948.
General motors America was also responsible for building things like white goods - fridges, stoves,washing machines etc. This company is known as General Electric. Holden being a subsidary of this company also produced white goods. So dont be suprised if you have an old General electric product made by Holden.

I too am building a Maple leaf truck The very last of them- 1948 Maple leaf.Now 502 BBC Chev powered. Maple leaf is a Canadian off shoot of GM . As is GMC.
These trucks were assembled here in Australia in Woodville SA. They arrived in CKD - Complete Knock Down form and our lads assembled them.
Any Maple leaf or Chev truck is worth restoring. If its not full of rust its worh it...... Post up some piccies.
Cheers streetneat

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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

spot on, except the fridges are Fridgidares which was a GM division up till '79.

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there's a maple leaf truck in nsw trading post,best offer

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i am interested, can you send details to micks1@bigpond.com.au

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I will send some pics in about a week and a half, I'm taking off tonight to do a bit of fishing, I think my old man has some good pics he took on his camera when it was all still together.

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Yeah

Are you selling it?If so i'm that sort of interseted also.

Thanks for that information Streetneat. Can you tell if the whole truck come from the States or perhaps the chassis and motor only.I have read that Holden made bodies for imported chassis/drivetrains.Not sure which though.

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The entire vehicles were assembled here Edburt. The Chassis were also sent in peices. These trucks and some cars were originally stamped out in Canada mostly and the bits were sent here for assembly
Frigidaire was a GM susbsidary and Holden did build fridges at some stage.For how long Im not sure. This explains some of the old fridges with holden on 'em.
Cheers streetneat

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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

am looking for a grill and drivers side door for a maple that i'm doing a resto hotrod project on any hepl would be greatful

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Fridgidares were made at Pagewood in Sydney I think.
Cheers Nathan.

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Quoting Streetneat:
"General motors America was also responsible for building things like white goods - fridges, stoves,washing machines etc. This company is known as General Electric."

General Electric is the same company as Edison Electric Co, the one started by Thomas Edison to flog his wares and supply electricity to customers. Edison was a good friend of Henry Ford so it's unlikely GE would be part of GM.
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He could have ment Frigidaire.

Some more [http://en.wikipedia....|info].

The beer fridge [http://gallery.oldho...|badge].

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Circlotron GM and GE is the same company. I got these sources from 100 Years history of GM in Australia book by Norm Darwin. Also Dr Terry may be able to back that one up..

Here we go - the first book in my libary I grabbed and its there in black and white. If I look a little further I will unearth more but this will do...In pages 36 and 99 of The Complete history of GM 1908 - 1986(American book by the auto editors of Consumers Guide) it mentions that ALfred P . Sloan ( top brass at GM USA at the time in the '20's was consolidatiing companies and buying them up. Quote from this book: *The Guide Motor Lamp company Pioneered the General Electric two filament bulb in 1924. Sloan initially put the company into the Delco Remy basket , but spun it off again in 1929 as Guide Lamp Division. Its facilities were then moved to the Remy complex at Anderson Indiana* blah blah etc etc

Friends annd business partners are not always the same thing- They most certainly may have been friends but no one lets things like that get in the way of business!
Cheers stretneat -Andrew

This is the first paragraph I grabbed - and as you can see clearly GM has many divisions and GE is most certainly part of GM!
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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

This is the [http://www.ge.com/en...|GE history] from their own site.

Also from wikipedia "Once dominant in North American diesel locomotive production having seen Baldwin, Fairbanks-Morse, Lima, Hamilton, Alco, Montreal and Canadian all fall by the wayside, General Motors fell under intense competition from General Electric (GE). GE expanded beyond its early production of small locomotives, much of it for small and medium size industries, into large mainline road locomotives for Class I railroad."

I wonder what your book meant?
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I think what you will find is initially they were in competition with each other in the early days. Alfred Sloan's tactics where to buy up his opposition via buying up its subsidaries and minor divisions. Its documented else where that this happened ... now yer gunna make me hit the books again! *sigh*

As the period you are reffering to may be earlier than any merger - I will attempt to look into this one further... I may be totally wrong of course and may have interpretted the info incorrectly. What IS fact is the events of GM using the same out sorces as thier opposition - so in essence the Guide Lamp division may be intially making components for GE and later they (Guide Lamp) were bought out by GM. I think this is where the confusion lies. I am sure that I have read that GM's elctrical division went under the banner of General Electric.
So until I can find the passage that states this as fact I will back down and accept that I may have simply misinterpretted the info. The same book barley even mentions the existance of Holden in Australia - except to mention that a deal was signed off in may 1924... Complete history of GM ...pfffttt... but then again anything that occures outside of the good ol' USA is irrelevant with the yanks... many of them still beleive the earth to be flat...
I got into a few good ding dong arguments with yanks trying to prove to them GMH was not an aftermarket manufacturer in a woolshed and the Utilty most certainly was a legimate factory built item... but thats another story all together...
Cheers streetneat - Andrew
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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

I don't really mind which way it turns out so long as we get to the bottom of it :-) Let us know what you find. Coolarama, Streetneat!
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why do they have product of General motors holden then ?

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they were known as general motors Holden's and during the years september 1939 -august 1945 They made refrigeration rooms,canvas goods ,Anti-tank guns. boats. barges ,aero engines,Torpedo's Ammunition, Automotive parts,Jungle carts and thats just to name a few things they produced under their name.This information comes from a book called "War Record,General Motors Holden's LTD Australia 1939-1945,Printed by their Public relations Department in 1946. Hopoe this settles some different opinions,regards Choppa.

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My Grandfather was employed by the deHavilland aircraft co in Hatfield england and was flown to Sydney in early 1945 to assist in the production of wings for the Mosquito bomber being built by General Motors-Holdens of Bunnerong Rd Pagewood and Ricketts and Thorp 0f Hattersley street Rockdale
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Possible, GM almost bought out ford once, Imagine if that happened!
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Didn't Ford own Chevrolet once upon a time, when it was still a separate company and not a GM divsion?
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Dunno, Remember my dad telling me about GM trying to buy out F@#d when they were going broke once but Henry thought the offer was a spot low so pretty much told em to bugger off but he said they almost had it but changed his mind at the last minute kinda thing, Will have to do some research about that, Very interesting if they did.
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Cheers,
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Lolo, That title will have a few peeps rushing in here bewildered..Sorry :-)

my book "The history of Holden since 1917" by Norm Darwin was printed by E.L.FORD publications pty. ltd, Newstead.
There ya go, a conection...of sorts, lol.

(Well i thought it was funny since i only grabbed the book to see if there was any mention of a conection between Holden and Ford as mentioned in posts above)

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Holden used to build Fords for FORD...
That was before they got their own Aussie plant up and running...

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I can't find any reference to Ford owning Chevrolet once. I must have imagined it :rolleyes:
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This I what I must have been thinking - in the 1920's Louis Chevrolet and his brothers used to make a nifty [http://images.google...|DOHC 16-valve head] for Model T's. Kinda like the HSV Commodore of it's day. Later on Louis and co. got bought up by GM.
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Was just looking for stuff but could not find anything about fords owning it, best I found is Chevrolet motor company incorperated with GM in November 1911, Dunno how to do a link but lots of interesting stuff here: http://www.gm.com/co...
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Would appreciate some info from others doing a resto on maple leaf's:
1. is there anywhere to source parts
2. is there a specs or manual that we can source
3. historical colours and variations
4. approx value of restored truck
thanks

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Whip on over to (Link to) OzRodders and check out the forums there mate, a few blokes on there own Maple Leaf's as well as a load of info for the asking...
Sign up for access to Members Only sections, a great site for pre'48 info ;{P

Cheers, Pig (OINKS308)

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Hi Guys.

I've no knowledge of any ownership connection of GE to GM.

The white goods division of GM was Frigidaire. It was sold off to White Consolidated Industries in 1979, this is now part of Westinghouse.

Another division of GM that made car airconditioners, heaters & radiators etc is Harrison.

The auto electrical division of GM was Delco Remy, later becoming Delco & now part of Delphi.

Maple Leaf was the truck division of GM Canada (The Maple Leaf symbol is on the Canadian flag). Like many GM brands they were made here by Holden motor bodies using imported chassis. As streetneat said Holden was a huge concern long before the 48/215(FX) was invented. It was bought out by GM to become GM-H in 1931.

I saw somebody mention GMC. Contrary to popular belief, this does not stand for GM Corporation or GM Canada, it stands for GM Coach, which is the the separate bus & truck division in GM US. A lot of pickups like the C20 are also badged GMC in the same way Holdens are rebadged as Chevs for export or Ford rebadge some of their models as Mercurys.

Dr Terry.

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my old man has one which has been registered since brand new when it was bought by his father, i got my truck licence in it aswell. it has been used as the main truck up untill 99 when it was replaced by a 4 ton isusu. the chev actualy has a tare of around 6 tons, not entirly sure. it doesnt get used much any more, no rust and original paint. he does know a place that still gets his parts no problem. if somones desperite you can email me personaly and i will give you his number.

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1947 Maple Leaf, 2 1/2 ton. Motor not seized and no parts missing. If interested send me an e-mail and I will send you pics.

glen_huber@hotmnail.com

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General motors established chassis assembly plants in the five mainland states of australia in1926 then five years later (1931) the buisness of Holden's Motor Body Builders LTD,Of woodville south australia was merged with General motors to become General motors holden's Limited with a capital of 1,111,600 pounds.

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Hi I have a 37 chev maple leaf partially restored and complete and would like to sell it please
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Hi I have a 37 chev maple leaf partially restored and complete and would like to sell it please
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