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Amelia Earhart

It's really looking like she and Fred Noonan forced down on Gardner Island and transmitted for Days afterwards.

Incredulous was the Schoolgirl who picked up Amelia's post forced down Messages and noted what she thought were the words "New York City".

Why the Coast Guard couldn't interpret that is beyond me.

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I vaguely remember the story from "[http://www.youtube.c...|In Search Of]" with Leonard Nimoy back in the 70's when I was a kid. Was it ever solved?

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I think the Documentary covers it pretty well, claiming she force landed next to the Shipwreck Norwich City.

Her post Forced Landing Transmissions coincided with Low Tide, which was when the Props cleared the Water so she could start the starboard Engine, run the Radio and recharge the Batteries.

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Why didn't they just look for the 'wheel' sticking out of the water that was in that really old foto?

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My guess is that they expected the Viewer to conclude that it went the same way as the rest of the Lockheed, off the steep Shelf and into very deep Water.

It had 75 Years in which to do so.

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Roar button.

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For every event in history ther seems to be a conspiracy theory!. The It's amazing how any things in our past have an "outside influence". The worst constructed and least factual conspiracy theory I have seen is the Port Arthur massacre bullcrap.

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according to an episode of Startrek Voyager, Amelia Earhart was obducted by alians, plane and all, and transported to the delta quadrent.

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hmm.

They'll never find her, Noonan or the Lockheed. She ran out of fuel before she had any chance of finding Howland Island and ditched into the ocean. Never heard of again. Period.

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Think of the crackpots!

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The Amelia Earhart conspiracies (and there are many) are right up there with Flight 19. Totally impossible to prove or disprove, thus their creators are free to push their theories as hard as they are able. It's much like the Ripperologists (Jack the Ripper theorists). Everyone has their pet ideas as to who he/she was, and will hear no other opinions on the subject. I suspect it may be because they don't WANT the mystery to be solved. Interesting stuff.

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The Documentary Link shows a Photo of a Lockheed Landing Strut in the same Frame as the Norwich City Shipwreck, taken a few years after the disappearance.

Close by, a Skull (identified as female Caucasian), Cosmetics known to be used by Amelia, a Pocketknife and a Zipper Tag all commensurate with the Lockheed's inventory were found during the War.

Gardner Island is on the same Sun Line Amelia reported (157 337) and Noonan's Navigational strategy was always a right turn once the time had been run (as he advised at Dakar). Gardner Island is a right turn (southward) from Howland Island.

Though he drank heavily, Noonan was a flawless Navigator. The Coast Guard confirmed the Lockheed was on Track right up to the Equator which was 200 miles from Howland, and they'd flown 2,000 Miles.

It looks very much like Amelia lost her Nerve and repeated her actions at Dakar (insisted on a left turn in defiance of Noonan's advice, right turn).

What do you make of the Jack The Ripper Diary? ... http://www.youtube.c...

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the ghosts of flight 401 makes for some interesting reading.

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I always find it a powerful Basis for investigation when a Bunch of unrelated People and Circumstances report the same Phenomenon.

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And all the more so when the employers try every underhanded trick in the book to bury the facts and silence the people experiencing the phenomenon.

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And right there a Conspiracy Theory is born.

Like Custer's Last Stand.

The official answer - no Soldiers were mutilated.
Conspiracy Theory - Soldiers were mutilated.
Forensic Analysis - Soldiers were mutilated, still alive some of them.

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What happened to them their there they're Lassie's? Maybe jack the ripper was after them, but Amelia flew down swept em up, and they now all live on an island with Elvis and king kong?

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Modified is horrified

The clue is in the opening Frames. The Date doesn't match the Day.

One of the great ways to sell a film is to state that it's a true story (like Fargo - Cohen Bros) when it's complete Fiction.

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Plus the fact there's absolutely no record of Miss Appleyard's School for Girls....

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Who cares, I love this stuff.I love a good doco.
But damn you T, that Jack The Ripper one means I gotta watch another doco..

:-)

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I'd be interested to know your impressions.

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Might take me a day or three...

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G'Day T, that is a fascinating book. I personally think Maybrick is the most plausible Ripper suspect, although I really enjoyed the Michael Caine TV movie that fingered Sir William Gull.

Back to Amelia; another factor to bear in mind is that Paul Mantz was in doubt of her expertise at the controls of the Electra, and was certainly unhappy about her complete unfamiliarity with the UHF radio set fitted for the flight.

FJWB, John G. Fuller who wrote Flight 401 also wrote "The Airmen Who Would Not Die", which focussed on the maiden flight of the airship R101. Really, really fascinating stuff to read!

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"Back to Amelia; another factor to bear in mind is that Paul Mantz was in doubt of her expertise at the controls of the Electra, and was certainly unhappy about her complete unfamiliarity with the UHF radio set fitted for the flight."

Mantz claimed more time was being spent on Publicity for the Flight than preparation.

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I've found this Movie to cover the handling of a lost Transpacific Flight and to give good survival tips ... http://www.youtube.c...

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At the bottom of this page there is a Shot of Bonnie and Clyde at Dexfield Park possibly taken by Blanche Barrow ... http://texashideout....

Do you notice any evidence of Double Exposure?

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Well, no I don't, but I'm not at all au fair with photography. What should I be looking for T?

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Upper right of the Photo and between the 2 Trees.

Do you see a Woman's Face?

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I can now you pointed it out. What's the significance of the photo, do you think? Is it a fake because of the double exposure?

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It's such a famous Photo. As the Page shows, it was the Day Blanche and Buck Barrow were taken into Custody.

I can't find a single Reference to the Double Exposure anywhere on the Web.

I think the Woman's Face is Bonnie because of the similarity in Hairstyle.

Other Details can be discerned when the Image has the Contrast adjusted and is enlarged, like what appears to be someone's Head triple Size over Bonnie. It starts as a light coloured curved Line running from Clyde's right Shoulder, upwards and past the Tree above him then terminating at the Top of the Photo. There is a concentric Curve slightly to the left of the Curve, as if it was a Closeup of a Face and their Hairline.

I found another Face (about half the size of the Double Exposure Face) between the rightmost Tree and the right Side of the Photo).

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I wished I'd never posted in this thread; the updates are killing me. loleryorn

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Aint you got a curious bone in your body?

I just love a bit of controversy and conspiracy theory.

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I don't mind conspiracy theories and the theatre it generates but the crackpots drive me bonkers bro.

They feed on it!

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I like the theatre too. And Crackpots are funny.
Did they really land on the moon..?

All's good Dazmu, hope you had a great new year...

EDIT: I should add, that the crackpot comment was definately not aimed at anyone on oldholden. We have many weird and wonderful members here, some more weird than wonderful. You can put me in either one of those two camps. I just meant crackpots in general...
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or even evidence recently came to light that the Japanese may have intercepted Amelia's plane? what I did hear being discussed on a radio program was scratchy and hard to listen to, but that even sounds plausible. I was playing radio roulette on a long car trip.

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If your project doesn't work, look for the part you didn't think was important.

One should forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged

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There's a lot of support among mystery buffs for the idea Earhart was spying for the US Govt on that leg of her flight. There's also many anecdotes that natives of the area saw a white couple taken prisoner by the Japanese, Noonan being executed out of hand and Earhart dying of dysentry some time later.

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Gotta love google, there's always 'evidence' to be found for whatever theory you choose to follow!
http://www.ameliaear...

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