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chopped springs debate

Hi all,

The good old chopped springs debate.
I'm looking to lower my car a little bit from the stock monster truck height its got at the moment. I dont want to slam it or anything, just enough to look neat. I've been looking around for springs, kits etc and its out of my price range at the moment. I've been talking to a few other people about chopping the springs for a temporary fix until I get the monney to get some lowered springs.
So i'm after your opinions and knowledge. How "dangerous" is chopping the stock springs in my VB?
My mate with another VB said to take about a coil and a half out of the front and 2 out of the back.
If i do cut the coils, its not going to be used at the track until I get the new springs/shocks in it because i dont want them to pop out on me. It will just be used as a cruiser.

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I'm not a fan a few of My mates have done it and going round corners to fast or jacking the car up will cause them to fall out of place just had a quick look and there are a set of lowered springs on eBay for $20 your safety is worth more than that in my opinion

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thanks for your opinion mate, hnking of just getting springs.

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James

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is illegal in some states, and I think chopping that much out is a bit too much. Do it right and get the desired height springs, and the matching shock absorbers to go with it.That way, when you get defected, you can return it to original for the inspection. I THINK in NSW you are only allowed an inch or two from standard. I THINK. Call me stupid and correct me if anyone can verify this

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not calling you stupid mate because i'm the one looking at chopping springs. lol
Thanks for your opinions guys, thats what I put this post up for because i want to see everyones opinion.

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James

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for a start get a job, get off the booze and stop endangering your fellow road users! A pair of lowered springs will set you back less than $150.00 dollars! Or should I say about the price of a cheap angle grinder and a slab of your chosen finest! BTW: if you took a coil and a half of the rear springs in your wrecking yard number then they'd most likely fall on the road at the first set of stop lights that you pulled your head into......Tuff VB? I really don't think so!

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For a start I am starting a new job in 2 weeks, and I'm not endangering my fellow road users since the car isn't on the road as yet and has standard suspension in it, NOT CHOPPED. I posted it up on here to ask the question BEFORE I went and chopped them. Which I'm not doing now.

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Stuff this cut spring idea.
read up on it a bit more and it is as dodgy as i first thought. Looks like its staying stock height for a few months more :(

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James

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my mate had a charade wth chopped springs. speedbumps i swear u could hear the spring rattle. i woule never do it, no worth the risk. springs are cheap anyway

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Done the 1.5 - 2 coil cut on many a Commodore back in rhe day without an ounce of trouble. Chip Foose has done it a pile of times on Overhaulin!

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What a dude :)

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Hi James,

I'm certainly not recommending you do something stupid like cutting springs and driving about on them BUT in my younger days it was common amongst all the young fellas to chop the springs on dunnydoors and cruise about without incident (other than sh!t handling & tyre wear). It's not smart, highly illegal, will void your insurance blah blah blah but I can guarantee thousands of kids who don't give a toss are cruising about on cut springs as I type.

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Thanks Emu, I'm going to avoid the chopped springs idea, and just find some lowered springs. A guy has a set of 4 king springs super lows front an back including front struts for 120. This will lower my car roughly 50mm which will do for now until I do it properly with new shocks and springs all round and go lower.
Just gotta get the money and will be sweet :)

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James

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I think that is a better option than cutting them James.When you cut them you also change the tension of the spring,even more dramatically if it is a variable rate coil. With a change in spring tension it is preferred to have a shock absorber change/adjustment to match the spring.

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John.

Maybe Ryobi should get some advertising in Street Machine. Custom suspension by Ryobi.

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Cheers JH
I read up on all this last night and it made my mind up for Me.

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James

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more importantly than the cut springs is the right shock absorbers.
you need to get the right shock travel to match your lowered ride height.

Kings springs are only about $125 last I checked, and in my opinion much better than the pedders. I put pedders in my Gemini to give them a go - and would not do it again.

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Like scaredy....I mean anonymous posted above :P

I have cut springs in my younger days and never had a problem.

In saying that, though, I definitely wouldn't cut 1 and a 1/2 to 2 coils! That would drop it in the weeds and possibly cause problems with the springs being too short.

On the flip side, I have also bought proper lowered coils and have found them to be loose when you jack the car up.

I would not cut the springs nowadays, but only cause they are so cheap, however, if I didn't have the coin and desperately wanted to drop the car a little, I reckon I'd consider it.

One word of warning - if you ever did go down that path, make sure you cut them with as little heat as possible, even if it means using a hacksaw and cooling them during the process.

I have seen guys try and take short cuts by using oxy etc and totally stuff the tension in the spring.

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Along the lines of what fj283 said,
I've serviced more
than a few ricers with low springs but stock
struts, lift em up & the springs sit there all
loose & the spring seat is 4/5" away from the
spring end. Had to get 4 other mechanics to
guide the spring back in while lowering the puss
bucket back to the ground.
Ohh & I know what ya mean Wheel Nut, when young &
silly we just heated the still installed spring
with an oxy, bloody never stopped dropping till
the coils were touching each other. Got canary'd
& couldnt even clear the lil curb infront of the
pit, cop just shook his head & told me not to
bother coming back till I've got some stock springs
in.
Live n learn eh!

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Theres a post here or on just commodores that explains how chopped springs killed a few young blokes last year or the year b4. The wheel went in a pot hole allowing the chopped spring to fall out of the saddle at 100ks shooting the car off the road. for the commodore you can buy shorter rear shocks when you lower it

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Rebodied? when did it become legal to swap the tags?

The year 1964, the car FX Holden, with one coil cut from front and 2" lowering blocks on rear, home made lowering blocks made from 2" x 1/4" angle iron welded together along with mild steel, that's right, mild steel U bolts threaded in the vice and bent with the oxy, oh, and home made wide wheels.

Only God knows why I'm still here.

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Hi guys thanks for the replies, just to let you know I have sourced a set of super lows off a mate for $120 including all 4 springs and front struts.
Do I have to get shortened rear shocks aswell straight away or will I get away with using the standard shocks with the lowered springs for a little while?

Cheers
James

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Nothen wrong with cutting springs! Ive chopped my mums springs she loved it!! LOL me and my mates have always done it and had no problems just make sure you wire the top and bottom so it holds them in place ova dips and wen jacking the car.

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Hitler your a tosser cut springs drive [Naughty Pottyword] why down grade the car do you drive your car or look at it?

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