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After many long nights in the shed I finally have to the old 202 running
I started her up and had it runnin for 5 mins at idle with the rad cap off topping up the water
Then it just started spewing water out so I switched her off had a bit of a look around checked the oil and it's very milky. I changed the oil and filter started her up again same thing still spewing water and oil went milky again and now it's blowin smoke its running a little rich so it was blowing smoke before a little bit but now it's pouring
Out I think my head gasket it gone so I removed head changed gasket tried again no luck same symptoms head gasket isn't backwards. Question is if I get the head shaved will it fix this problem?
Any help would really be appreciated
Thanks jesse

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the head might be cracked?

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WHAT? no gravy?

Cracked head or block I'd say.

Pull the head and give it a really good look over.

Doesn't sound good.

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hmm not good what is the easiest way to check this and is it reparable i have a few spare blocks but its a yella terra head and cant really afford another one

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After another look just realized my oil level is three times what it
Should be so there is a Shyt load of water on the sump but not external leaks

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Something is very wrong.
You either have a really bad crack or hole in your head or block. Pull the head and look for signs...

You need to give us more background info on the engine and head. Where did you get them? How long since run? etc etc

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Are you sure you have the right head for the motor
if its a blue 12 port head that might be your problem if
you have a red block there is extra water ports in the blue heads that might be causing water to flow into the sump???

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One thing you need to do is stop running it until you square this issue away. Will only make things worse

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Got the engine a few months ago from a bloke I no he pulled it out of his torana to put a 5l in its a 202 yella terra head it's got a bit of work done to it got it in my ute had it running changed the Carby to a 350 Holley as the old single strommy was
Doing this engine no justice when I first got it running I overheated it to the point where the extractors were so I pulled engine out cleaned everything up new gaskets had a look over everything put it pack together in the ute and now this

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Did you use Glue on the Head Bolts?
Head Bolts penetrate the Water Jackets and must have Glue on their Threads to prevent Coolant walking up them and getting into the Oil.

Holden Sealant is used. The Part Number is in this Page ... http://holdenpaedia....

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Holdenpaedia, they're the brakes Mate.

Bolt sealant is definitely needed HOWEVER it is NOT the cause of your problems here. In your original post, you state this started after 5 minutes of running. The symptoms would not develop from 5 minutes through the bolt threads...

OBVIOUS THINGS TO CHECK
Have you checked under your head gasket for junk...bits of gasket, rubber...anything. Are the mating surfaces clean and true - checked with a straight edge??

NEXT
If you have another head, you can prove the block is good without removing it from the car by changing out the head and seeing how that goes. If good, the head was the problem, if not good, you have bigger issues.

Good luck with it mate. Post your findings back here so we can help further.

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When I get a
Chance will pull the head off and check it over and put another head on it then go from there

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if ya cooked it in the past it will most likely be a cracked head
but cooked motors are never any good even the white metal in the bearings melts

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this engine must have really been hot for it to crack anything, I can't say in my 23 on years on the coal face I saw one. it seems to be an alloy head thing. I would take the head along to a reputable engine re-build specialist and have it cracked tested on the bench, and if no cracks, certainly machine the gasket surface. can you post some pics of the block and the head gasket surfaces? I would like to see how much corrosion may be in the block or head, as some engines I have seen have been condemned from water port corrosion spreading too far, so no matter how good the repair is, it will always leak. Are you in Sydney? I know of a very trusted head reconditioner/brake and clutch specialist in Alexandria who is probably the best in the business.

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If your project doesn't work, look for the part you didn't think was important.

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Thanks for everyones advice and help will pull the head off sometime this week post some
Photos of everything and send it away to get done
How much would one expect to pay to have a head crack tested and resurfaced
Defiantly not 12 port head

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at my shop, i would normally charge $30 for a crack test and $85 for a surface grind, both plus gst. being on oldholden.com though, if you are on the gold coast, give me a shout out as i would do a deal for you - crack test the head and surface grind it for $100.

i have only ever seen one block cracked NOT IN THE BORE it had a crack lengthways in the main tunnel up to the water jacket.

most (not all) common holden 6 head cracks i have seen dont really seem to allow much if any water into the chamber. id be suspecting the block, or the head gasket may have corroded around a water passage.

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Prime opportunity to slip a 250 cross flow under the hood.

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one very sucsessfull fisherman.

Unfortunately I'm in Victoria thanks for the offer though
Can't wait to her get running an I would put an ecotec in before a cross flow
Oh and t I put permatex on the headbolts

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