You are here

Questions asked and answered. Thank you

Hey all. Questions asked and answered. Thanks to all.

Model: 
Topic: 
Engine: 
Section: 
AttachmentSize
Image icon prem 017.JPG2.9 MB

Comments

So lets put this into perspective. Holden only built part of this car and then the dealer put the other bits on.

Now for the other bits, the only way to know that only 8 others had this would be to ring EVERY holden dealer and ask if they put on things like over riders, sun visor, radio power antenna and after market air con. So these can be taken out of the equation.

So Holden only made 8 Premier wagons, 253, power steering, T bar, cloth trim, power windows, power tail gate and instrument dash. It has a lot of options, which means that it would not be common, however only 8 built? To confirm that the owner would have had to go back to GM-H in 74, when the HQ production ended, and asked how many cars are like mine? He may have been told when he purchased it that it was 1 of 8, but production had not ended. I cannot se Holden telling the dealer this type of info anyway, so owner probably told this to impress him and make the sale.

Holden would know how many of a particular option was fitted, but each and every combintion for over 400000 cars is just not realistic.

Holden can tell you if it is a 253, auto, disc brakes, non air conditioned, power steering car. They cannot confirm the power windows, instrument dash or T bar and buckets. I cannot see a one owner car being retro fitted with the windows and t bar (buckets will show on compliance plate as seating capacity of 5) Power steering though is an easy transfer for when a driver becomes older.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I realise 499000 HQ's were made and I am not suggesting only 8 Prem wagons were made. I was thinking more like a dealer ordered 8 at the time with this trim and bits and then added the extras. Or maybe a promotion of some kind and 8 matching vehicles were done. Not unheard of in the day(im 48 memory works at times lol) Might be just hoping its a one of 8 and it's just an order with the lot minus pineapple lol. Not that it matters got it for a great price and will restore without too much b.s.
Nothing has been retrofitted and bar the radiator and manifold its original down to the paperwork. And the freaking clock works!!!hehehehe

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I am not saying there were only 8 Prem wagons. What I am saying is that of all the Prem wagons, there is nothing ordered on your car that was not readily avaiable as a standard option. As there were only about a dozen options on a Premier, excluding trim colour and paint colour, therefore it was possible for Holden to make about 5000 different Premier wagons.

If they made 10,000 Prem wagons (2%, which is less then Monnaro production)then there would be 2 like yours, plus 2 like yours with 308, 2 with 202. There would also be 2 x 4 speed with 253, and 3 on the tree, there would also be 2 like yours with air conditioning (yours is not genuine).

A dealer may have ordered 8 in this combintaion, but so too may have another dealer. SO a dealer orders 8 cars that no one else has ordered. If no one else has ordered them that tells you no one wants them, ie dealer orders 8 Pink HSV VE commodores as no one else has ordered them in that combination, but he will sell them. If I had a salesman order 8 of some combination that was not "regularly" ordered I would shoot him, because I am going to find it hard to shift them, specially top of the line Premier wagons, why not just order in 8 Statos.

The BS is that there are 8 and 8 only. What you will find is this car is either

1) A showroom demonstrator, ie order in a Prem wagon with all the good stuff then sell some of these items to the customer. The customer takes for a ride, loves the steer but not the cloth trim, sell steer to him, next customer sell the cloth trim etc.

2) A customer came in and ordered a car with all the bits, well nearly.

As for the anniversary wagon, it could not be as these were HX 50th anniversary.

Ben Stewart will confirm the same.

BTW you say nothing has been retro fitted, well you are wrong, the air con is.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Ty all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Awesome pickup I love Premier wagons.

Premiers got the power tailgate as standard and electric aerial was not available on wagons only sedans as it was fitted to the left rear quarter. Mk IV A/C, venetians and the visor would have been a dealer or later addition.

Your factory options would have been cloth trim, 253, auto, floor shift, extra gauges, power windows. Not extensive, but certainly enough to make you the envy of the street back in the day.
I would like to see pics of the interior and the trim code and what colour is it?

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Email
[http://gallery.oldho...|Oldholden Paint & Trim Colours & Codes]

Ty all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Ty all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I saw this one Ebay, emailed the guy (Tony?) straight away, the guy didnt get back to me. I emailed him again I offered him $3000, if you haven't sold it. He answered that one, said its sold! Bet he's kicking himself, Ha ha Cheers Drew
Ghostman64eh not loged in

PS When can I pick it up?

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Ty all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Here are the numbers. Small plate 8p35rdj4055960
hq81235 Model

92332-a Body

1867-38T Trim

567-15334 Paint.

I see that Holden introduced 25th anniversary Premier sedans 11/73. The wagon is a 11/73 build so maybe it is an anniversary wagon???
It also has a 2 barrell Maxitork manifold fitted. Has anyone ever seen one before? No blank plate and 2 barell inlet on manifold.

Pics in my Shed when the rain stops.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Well yes I could have got more money for the wagon but I just wanted a quick no nonsense sail and that is what I got.Any way good luck with the old girl cant wait to see pics when she is restored to her former glory.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Hey Tony. It will come up fine with a resto and I appreciate the deal. Start prepping in 6 weeks or so. Bloody towie and his dad are hassling me to sell to them but fat chance of that lol.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

The excitment is affecting you, it isn't an anniversary wagon. No such thing. Drew

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Well there are a few who disagree there about that mate. Have seen a couple for sale with documentation stating anniversary wagons so that is a discussion for another time lol. With this being 11\73 with the options and trim there is something a little different to the norm with this wagon without doubt and it will be a good beast to promote my business. Just means I have to sell my matching numbered HJ Premier sedan project with books original radio etc instead of using it.
Hopefully someone will have seen this trim before or has a beast with it as standard.Ill try GMH or Ben Stewart to see if he has any insight into the mystery lol.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Your excitement is embarrassing.

You can dream and live in a world of fantasy all you like....fact is you have something common with dealer options AND a massive imagination.

Just be happy it's a nice car purchased very cheap from a nice sounding bloke - forget the fairytale and rarest car ever toss.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

LMAO. There is always one in the crowd with the respect gene missing.. I expect this type of boo hoo on Boost. Guess your a little upset someone got to it before you huh???Just goes to show the internet brings out the turd in people on any site lol. Sure bud. A really common car. I see one every day driving past me. Sometimes 5 in a row like council buses.
I feel a bit sorry for you with your attiude lad. I hope your day improves or you work out whats up with you.

Most people get excited about a classic purchase and it is a good thing. Regardless of your sad comments most agree. Nothing wrong with a little hope either lad. The questions had to be asked and at least some members with respect replied. Stay tuned for the reato and for the opening of The Shed at Slacks Crrek in 5 weeks or so peeps

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I made the comments at the top re not that rare, but in no way would I say they were 10 deep in the local woolies.

its a great car, but this "I have the rarest this or that" justs gets toooooooo much. Fact is it cannot be justified, Holden never releasd that info except on special editions. Be happy that you have a great optioned HQ wagon. Uncle still has his, it is also an optioned car, he ordered his HQ Kingswood wagon with 253 column auto LSD 6" rims cloth trim GTS dash. Has the reciept and all. It to has now got after market air.

They are great cars and I do not think anyone here begrudges you getting it. It is just the hype about what it is.

Maybe should put my uncles next to it to yours to show a couple of "what you could buy if you wanted" cars.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Seems to me you like to see your words on a screen mate. If you cant handle members getting excited about a rare find I suggest you stick to boostcruising for your rants.

To me any sook that doesnt appreciate a good find on a site like this should stick to owning excels. Not to mention you don't have a username here, pretend to be someone else in your replies and have nothing constructive to say. Sad life you have there.
Post a pic of your uncles car bud as I am sure we would like to see another top classic. But nothing of your own to post huh??? Just an uncles car????? I hope your life improves lad as it seems you need something to occupy your time .

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

No need to be arrogant.

Just sayin'

Play nice.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers,

Emu

O.H.T.C. original member

ty all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

My name is Paul, I do not need a hick user name I use whats on my birth cirtificate. I am a Holden fan so why not just let me use that?

So who am I pretending to be?

I have an uncle who has a nice car, your nieces and nephews are just like me. Their uncle has a great car and if they say so they own nothing.

At first I thought here we go some guy has been told by someone he has this and that and is all excited and I tried to use logic to show why not. Lots of guys get told lots of stories only to find they are sales stories. Most have the common sence to see that truth, you sir do not.

I look forward to the panel shop opening here in Brisbane and bringing the uncles HQ down and my nothing and parking it next to yours.

See you soon.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

The 25th Anniversary Premiers were all Silver Sedans with vinyl roof(ie 25th Anniversary = Silver Anniversary).Going by the VIN number it is a Melbourne built 1974 253 V8 Prem Wagon,with Juniper paint work and Doeskin/cloth trim.
The body number would indicate an Adelaide body.
Check the chassis rail and the compliance plate, they should both read DHQ xxxxx and then a letter.(might even be EHQxxxx)
The 11/73 build and the 1974 date letter on the VIN are correct as the Model Year runs from Sept to Aug so it is a 1974 model built in November 1973.
The T-bar auto was the standard option when a Prem was ordered with buckets, the trim code tells you it had Doeskin vinyl with the darker cloth trim.
Have a look in my shed, my 1973 Prem wagon is matching numbers 253 6 seater.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers
Dick Lang Still ignoring Stan Still.

HQ Ute, HQ Prem Wagon, HX Sandman Ute, HZ Ute, VE Lumina Sedan.
Wanted "Lanjen" Holden Service Tools and "Lanspeed" Early Holden Accessories

So this is doeskin. What do they call the cloth insert other than look at me lol. . So next question How many got power windows? Have to say first wagon I have seen with them. Are you doing you Prem up??? I am going to bare metal my poor thing.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Have posted some pics in my shed if anyone wants a look.

Does anyone know of a trimmer in Brissy/Gold Coast area who may be able to match the trim? Want to get the drivers repaired or redone. Cheers

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

[http://www.monaroclu...|Same Colour interior Doeskin/Chestnut & Cloth]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

......._
___/_|__Midnite__
[_(โ€ข)______(โ€ข)__]~~~~~~

That is nice without doubt and thanks for the pic. I have been a HK HT HG fan for a long while and the HQ was a bit of a mystery to me hence not seeing the trim before.. Learning quick here lol

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Modified is horrified

Personally I reckon its nice to see a bloke happy and excited with his new old Holden. Drew, how about letting us all be a bit happy for the bloke?

Cheers, Matt

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

TY all

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Grouse wagon, good score.

:)

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

........๐“ฃ๐“ฒ๐“ถ.

โœ„--------------------------------------------------------

-_--_--_ _______._
_--_-_ -/___+__|__\__
.,.,.,,.,|_O ________O_|

Hey Tim. Thanks for the comment. I had a look at your shed and geez mate I though I had some stashed lol. Got a soft spot for the HR. It was my very first car in 1981. And how the hell did you come accross an old ambo?? Top score.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

HR was your first car in 1981? Mine too.

And how the hell did I come accross an old ambo??
Long story-short, I saw it in Just Cars magazine about 7 or 8 years ago and rang up thinking it'd be long gone. Turns out I was the first caller. We did the deal over the fone. I bought it sight-unseen, he put it on the ferry in Tassie and I picked it up from Docklands, Melbourne..
Luckily it turned out to be a pretty honest old car.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

........๐“ฃ๐“ฒ๐“ถ.

โœ„--------------------------------------------------------

-_--_--_ _______._
_--_-_ -/___+__|__\__
.,.,.,,.,|_O ________O_|

Hey Tim. Yeah my first one cost me 250.00 with a side swipe in rhr quarter. Used to get the old day permit for 2 days and drive it every weekend, exhaust hanging out the rhs in front of the back wheel with a 2 foot hot dog. 6's on the back stockos on the front, bugger all floorpan drivers side, double or triple pump on the brakes to pull up She was a beast. heheheh. Ah the days lol.

Good score sight unseen the ol ambo. Have bought afewt myself the same way and been pretty lucky.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I'm happy for you too - great score!!!

BUT it might be time to use something else for your subject line. Getting awful boring in the right column :)

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers,

Emu

O.H.T.C. original member

Hey mate. A subject line just for you hehehe

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I made ONE comment about HQ anniversary wagons not existing. End of story. If you know your HQs you will know that this is a fact, not school yard tales. I signed that entry Drew. I wasn't on my own computer so I wasn't signed in. So all the post after that saying "no such thing as a HQ anniversary model- stop being a bla bla bla etc are nothing to do with me. Hey I'm glad a old holden member bought it, we know its going to be looked after, besides I already have a HQ Prem sedan factory 4 speed, sports gauges, 202 (Maybe its a Brock special produced in honor of the XU1 but for the family man)HQ kingswood very plain even drums on the front, plus a few more. We are all here to share knowledge, help each other, have a laugh and make new friends. So I am happy for him as I said previously, but when I see wild unfounded comments made (ie Anniversary model), I do feel I have to set the record straight. Cheers Drew

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

HZ Kingswood sedan, HQ Kingswood Wagon, HJ Ute, HZ Sedan, HX ute and WB Stato, what to work on or cruise in today?

Hey Drew. Like I mentioned in a reply I am not up on the HQ models other than enough Monaro stuff to know one from another as I used to restore a few in the days the prices were normal.

I like how someone else signed a reply as Drew. Makes yah wonder about some people..... Reminds me of the days I used to moderate on Boost Cruising with the hacking and the keyboard warrrior pretend stuff. Was funny tillsomeone got hurt ;-)

Great site here by the way. Some fantastic cars on here and good to see good information being given.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Ahh fair enough Drew, good on you mate. Bloody nice wagon at the end of the day, eh?!!

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

That is a very desirable car.I'd have it in a flash.
Any chance of some more pics?

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Big block HZ 1 tonner
HQ SS
WB van
HJ coupe

lol nice score!

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

She was just a whiskey maker, but I loved her still.

[http://gallery.oldho...|toybox]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.