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How can you tell if a HR Holden with a 186S and Opel 4speed is original fitment, apart from having a 186K engine number? Are there any indicators to verify the originality of these items. Appreciate any help offered.

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You wanting to know if the motor and box were fitted to your HR at the factory?
As far as I know, without the original paperwork stating what the car came with, you will never know. You can 'date' the motor and it will give you an approximate build-date. Then look at a few tell-tale markings on the car, you'll get a fairly good idea if it's the correct motor (or close enough).
There's no numbers on the tags that will tell you it's a 186S or 4 speed.

Can others confirm this please?

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just kidding...from what I understand that combo was introduced in May/June 67...so if you have any dated items on the car earlier than that - eg the wiper arms under the dash ...it would make you suspicious re authenticity..

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Andrew

As far as I knew 67 was the year not sure what month
I gess thatโ€™s why people do the X2 conversation for the 66
I did hear something about the X2 could be ordered with a 3 speed column shift 2 speed power glide and later a 4 speed ๐Ÿค”
Iโ€™m not 100% sure But I think I red it here

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Have a look at the gearshift hole in the floor. It it looks neatly pressed out like they do at the factory it could be a factory Opel 4 speed car. If it isn't a neat cut out it isn't factory.
Is it bucket seats or bench? I've seen a HK with a factory Opel 4 speed and bench seat.
David

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Old is good.

Brockies first Holden race car was a HR 186S Premier.

I've only seen 1 x 186S HR I would consider original
i.e its most likely genuine as he had the papers and
knew the original owner. So here's some of the photos
I took a few years ago.

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