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Nullarbor and LPG

Is LPG available along the Nullarbor or only in the bigger towns? If so, what does it generally cost?

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Plenty of LPG on the Nullabor, travelled it myself many times and have always found it at every servo, however it is up to $1.00 a litre.

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The car is on gas only and has a conservative 450km range. Out in the sticks on a flat road at 100kph it would just squeak 600k's from 83 litres. Is that far enough between stops? More to the point, what is the greatest distance betwen fuel stops? I've never been out there. ____________________________________________________________________
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fuel stops are no further apart than 400k's as for lpg at these servo's i cant comment as i run ulp sorry

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I don't know exactly what the greatest distances between stops is but it is far less than 450kms, my car can only do 420kms and Ive never run out, only once did I come close but that was due to missing one stop. Where are you going?

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The longest stint with no gas is only 250 odd kays nowdays. I've done it 8 times 4 on an R1 and it only got around 240 or so on a tank. I also did it in my old hj prem with 2 44's of avgas being carried on a hilux, now that was a fun trip. There is plenty to see out there as well. (highly recommend a night at the Penong Hotel)

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you musta fried!

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keep the info coming as I may e doing this trip in the future.. :D

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Where am I going? Dunno. I'm thinking of doing the Nulla because it is there, the same reason you climb a mountain. Plus, the one-note song of the 202 for hour upon hour in the lonely open spaces beckons [http://www.pantheon....|like the Sirens did to Orpheus].
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If you do the Nulla, drop in & say G'day on your way through Horsham.
The old man (Old man Q-ball???)did the trip in his fathers EK (auto) back when it was a dirt road & you had to open a gate at the SA/WA border!!Man what an adventure......made even better by an"old holden"!!.
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Q-ball.

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We'll have a special Cruise in your honour when you get here Circ.

I'm sure some of the guys (and I include myself in that) would be happy to give you a bed for a few nights.

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Hi Circlotron
thought you might like to nut your trip out on this when you cross the Nulla, might help you,
BTW, phoned a servo place at Cooktown to ask for LPG price, said its against the law to give it out, what a lot of rot, anyway asked if was over $1 ,yes,is it over $1.20, no is it over $1.10 no, so guess it around the $1.00 - $1.10 mark, realy some people, will phone the Butcher next time and ask him to look out his shop window.
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Hey Jacks, that's a neat map! I'll bookmark that. Looks like the longest hop is from Nundroo Hotel Motel to WA/SA Border Village at 347 km. Pfffft - easy peasy.
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What's the speed limit out on the Nulla BTW? And I don't mean "whatever the old bus will do!" :-P
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G'day Circlotron!
I highly recommend the Nullarbor road trip - just don't do it in Summer!! Many cars come to grief out there and that's ok as long as you don't have to deal with it in 44 degree heat.
The speed limit is 100 km / hr from Melbourne until you get a fair way outta town, and then pretty much 110 km / hr until you hit Perth.
By the way, i echo Qute's sentiments, you will probably be coming through Kalgoorlie, you (and family if applicable) are welcome to pass a night at our humble abode, don't be scared to ask.
email at andybjhuntley at yahoo dot com dot au if you're interested.

I rode a little Honda CX500 across the Nullarbor in 4 days back in 1997. I was looking for work in WA. I don't recommend more than about 600 km per day on a motorcycle, it hurts too damn much!

Arriving in Perth i immediately found work and had to start within 10 days. Couldn't get a plane or train ticket on short notice so I had to resort to the Greyhound to get back to Victoria to collect my car, belongings and dog. So less than 24 hours later I crossed back by bus.

Never again. 48 hours non stop on a bus is just awful. I remember when i was on my bike, You'd pull up at roadhouses and go for a little bowlegged walk to ease your aching butt, and all these people on the bus would come up and beg to go with you. I thought they were a little weird, how comfortable would a bus be compared with this thing, I thought? I'm telling you, the bus is hell on earth. To top it off after 36 hours with no sleep we stopped in Adelaide and they split our exhausted 25 or so passengers up, between EIGHT buses going from Adelaide to Melbourne. WHY??? because it was grand final day the next day and they were Adelaide crows supporters. And the crow people haven't just spent 36 hours in Purgatory, oh no, they've actually just spent about 3 hours at the PUB, and they don't want to grasp the elusive chance of a couple of minutes sleep, OH NO!!! they want to sing, "we're the mighty F^#$*%(ing Adelaide Crows" all night at the top of their lungs and watch replays of last weeks semifinal and drink beer.....

Bah.

Anyhow arriving in Melbourne I packed up my bits and pieces and shot through in Pinky the flaming EK Holden with Brutus the Dog and a whole bunch of audio tapes. A memorable moment was pulling out to pass a HJ or thereabouts Panelvan going up a long hill around Madurah Pass. These guys were flat out at about 120 and they looked gobsmacked to see and EK accelerate uphill and overtake them doing about 140. heh heh.

Anyways sorry to bore you with such a long winded tale ( I must be getting old or something ) yeah the speed limit is 110 km / hr most of the way, No open speed limit, sorry, but lets be realistic - the roads are pretty damn good, and you can go faster than that if you want to. After Iron Knob in S.A. about the only trouble spots for radar traps are at Ceduna and the WA border (or anywhere within about 100 km of them). You'll probably get pulled over at the SA/WA border, most people do, the police there are very diligent. Oh and of course the customs people may search your car for fruit etc. but usually don't.
I know it is irresponsible to encourage speeding, but NULL ARBOR is latin for "No trees" and so you can see any wildlife coming for about 300 metres in any direction. Add to that the world's longest stretch of straight road (160 or so km with not one kink) and absolutely nobody around, and I personally think it's a little unrealistic to expect people to putt along at 110 km / hr for 12 hours a day. Depending on the conditions of course.
Anyway have a lot of fun! Take the time out to stop at every single tourist attraction you can find, it breaks up the monotony - you'd be surprised what there is out there, there's Whale Watching stations on the great Australian Byte, Caves to visit, all kinds of stuff.
Enjoy!

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ehehe good story pink ! traveling 9 hours from Bridgetown to Geraldton was enough for me D: never again !

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Yeah pretty boring on a bike, I did Kal to melb & back 5 times on an R1 ! Once it was to a funeral, from Redbeards after a day/night on the piss (good fun) then rode straight through to Nhill in western vic , had 3 hours sleep then on to Ararat & made the funeral with an hour to spare. Did the whole trip in about 28 hours from Kal to Ararat all on an R1 (not the most comfortable bike in the world)
Was a great trip & fairly quick most of the way!, just a bit painfull for a day or 2 after it ;-)

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Painful you bet!!!
I made the mistake of taking a backpack on the bike. For anyone considering it, this is a no - no. Also get a sheepskin cover for your seat:)

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nullarbor I was in sydney in about 90 and bought a heap of car parts, and having flown over had no way to get it all back to Perth so I bought a VW Kombi ute out of the Trading Post for $500, no pink slip and about 3 days rego. Loaded it up, drove to Adelaide, bought a 44 gallon drum in Adelaide, filled it with petrol and just drove. Drained the 44 in the tank every now and then.
Hairiest moment was just out of Kalgoor;ie I overtook a huge tipper with a load of rock on board, going down a failry steep hill. just as I pulled in front of him the bloody coil fell off the engine and it stopped, making me slow right down in front of him, so with about 80 tonnes of truck and rock up my bum i had to hit the side of the road very quickly!
He gave a love toot as he went past...
Sold the vW in Perth for $500 so did all right out of that.
Did Adelaide to Perth in the EH in about 36 hours, on my own, at Christmas in 42 degree heat. Not funny.

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Ahhh mate CX500 Honda, now that brings back memories! ;{P
I had the Shadow, ran a Full Fairing, Kawasaki bottom and Honda top I was told painted to match the Black & Red scheme, but it looked all the world like a Bike Batman would have ridden lol

But I have to admit, the note on the beautiful V-Twin, its lovely warm heads that kept my knees nice'n toasty warm in Winter, that Full Fairing that even in the most heaviest of rain would see me dry riding for an hour and a half from Ipswich to the Sunshine Coast, the only way I would get wet was if I stopped at an intersection, my feet would get wet but the LEather Boots stopped any water anyways, but that old Bike was like a Jason Recliner chair on wheels!
It would had to have been the Ugliest, but the most comfortable Bike I have ever ridden!
I loved my Ugly Duckling until we both met our fate in that headon with the Toyota back in '84...

BTW, I am 100% positive if you delve a little, a CX500 Honda was the FIRST Road Bike ever to cross the Simpson Desert un-aided...
A Bloody feat for a Road Bike, not sure if it was the first at all, but I do know it was the first Road Bike to do so (Or one of them bloody great Deserts in Oz's heart land ;{D lol)

Always wanted to buy a Low Rider Chopper frame and fit my old CX500 running gear to it, would have loved to have done that running two straight Pipes sort of like the Chopper/Bobber BSA's and Triumphs of many moons ago...
Ahhh memories...

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Our forfathers were total nutcases Oinks, All the outback stations used old rigids from panthers to wallas, even saw a retired vincent black shadowthat saw it's entire life sitting behind mobs of sheep or running down brumbys and camels.
I'd roll up at the homestead after a hard days mustering on a XR 500 mono shock job, park it in the shed next to an old delapitated bsa goldflash or the like then whinge about my kidneys being black and blue, that is till you try imagine your forefathers jumping off a rigid and doubt they'd whinge at all.
I'd be absolutely stunned to learn the simpson crossing waited until such recent times.
P.S i always thought CX was shorthand for Sucks...:)

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"Junk is something you throw out 3 weeks before you need it"

I realise that Puter, hell you could bet ya ass on it that it was probably some old wiry Irishman and his girlfrie.. err? Trusty Camel who was the first across lol
But as for Road Bikes, the CX500 Honda was the FIRST Road Bike documented to do a solo crossing of, I am very sure, the Simpson Desert.
I remember reading it in an old Bike magazine I once had where the CX500 story caught my eye.
Actually it doesn't say much for a CX500 as a Road Bike with its standard Ride height equal to that of a Chook Chaser! PMSL
BUT, it was certainly the MOST Comfortable and Most Ugly Bike I have ever ridden, I could Ride for two hours straight and bounce off ready for the trip back.
I remember riding shorter distances on my old LTD250 and Z1000J2 and before I stopped and fell off it was like someone had driven a nail into my tail bone! :'{(
IF I were to ever buy another Bike, I would seriously look at buying that Low Rider Chopper Frame and then looking for a CX500/CX650 Turbo Honda and building my Jason Recliner on Two Wheels ;{P

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There is a CX500 in Horsham that has 12 klms on the clock & is kept beside it's original Honda box. It's part of an extensive private bike collection. Q-ball could hit it with a rock from his place if he has a good arm LOL

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I really hated the Shadow when a mate owned it, told him many times that it was the ugliest thing I had ever seen, then one day he asked if I wasnted to swap my treasured genuine '68 GT Cortina for it, I laughed my head off at him, so he threw me his keys and said to take it around the block, well I did, and a bit more, close to an hour and a half later I was sold and when I got back I threw him the keys to my little GT, it really was THAT impressive to ride!
I always wanted to buy one of the later CX650 Turbos, now they did look nice but I can only imagine how they rode and how well they went compared to the old CX500 which I 'just pipped' a few mates on while they were riding their old 750-4's :{D
A valiant effort to beat Bikes with 2 extra cylinders and an extra 250cc ;{P
I know I was impressed :{D lol

I would LOVE to find a mint CX500 today like that one Dave, but then with a busted leg I wouldn't be able to climb onto the bloody thing anymore... :{/
Sounds like you need to crack out that camera and add another album me thinks Dave? :{D

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Oinks mate, if i had it, It wouldn't have 12 k's on the clock or be sitting next to it's box....It would have zero k's and still be in the bloody box, lol.
I must at this point admit a couple of things or three , like, I've never owned a CX500, I've never riden one either, All my bikes that i've owned and loved, my mates always tell me i should burn them.

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"Junk is something you throw out 3 weeks before you need it"

All CXs are crap, even when new they were crap, read the reviews on the 650 turbo and it will tell you how crap they were. That being said I know a guy with a 650 turbo he bought new and still has, got 4000km on the clock, only rides it about twice a year now.

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Well what can I say? lol
Thankyou for clarifying that with your unfounded knowledge, but much the same can be said about anything as we have seen over the years.
It all depends on who is at the controls/ behind the wheel on the day, I remember reading the road tests on the 6 cylinder GTS Monaros and GTR Toranas etc back in the day and unless it came with the Chev V8 they were also crap.
I bet there are a lotta happy drivers out there today who are driving someone elses crap... :{D
I have learnt that you never take anyone's word as gospel including my own, for what I or others might like, or you for that matter, there would be no doubt a handfull of negative nay sayers to state otherwise, that is what makes this world great, diversity, imagine if we were Communist controlled with only one make of car to get us around, But then I suppose even the Tatra TatraPlan is a collectors item today...
Such is what makes the world go round ;{P

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Nullarbor...My father was a mad keen biker and he bought a brand new Velocette back in the 1950s. But Mum would not let him ride it so it sat in front of his radio shop with about 500 yards on the speedo for about 25 years. It had only ever been wheeled out the front of the bike shop and into dads shop. He used to start it now and then. It was a water cooled thing. Then he needed money so sold it to some guy that had been pestering him for years about it.
A friend bought a 36 Vauxhall roadster that was like new the guy that owned it bought a sedan and a roadster at the same time, but only used the sedan becuase he had to take the family as well. So when he died it was still sitting in the garage with about 16000 miles on it. The paint was immaculate.
After about 6 months of the mate owning it and parking it outside the paint all cracked up, it was that deep maroon colour with black guards.
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That is a shame mate, both with your Dad and his beloved Velocette and that Poor Vauxhall, what a way to meet its demise.
I know back in the 60's and 70's people were very unkind to the old Vauxhalls, especially the Vauxhall Vivas, but today they have quiet a following, a shame Vauxhalls had to come close to total extinction before people saw them for what they really were.

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Oinks the Velocette went to a loving home so alls well, the Vauxhall was a lovely car, brakes were a bit iffy, but it soldiered on for about 4 years then got run into and wrecked. Had a lot of paoer that car, big 6 motor looked like a chevvy motor.
I had one similar years later, not in as good condition, and although it was a 1936 model, it would keep up with my EH. My wife used to drive it and I had to have my skates on if i was following her home in the EH!

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"I know back in the 60's and 70's people were very unkind to the old Vauxhalls, especially the Vauxhall Vivas, but today they have quiet a following,"

You watch - one day people will be swooning over Camiras that today are going down the tip, oohing and aahing about how wonderful they are and how life was so carefree in April 2006.
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G'day Oinker! Jeez I had no idea it was a CX500 you came to grief on. No offense but I'm glad I never shared the same fate. Actually I think that was one bike I never came off.

They were so damn reliable!! mine cost me about $1000 and went without a hiccup from Melbourne to Perth no worries. the speedo cable went Sproing about Southern cross (400 km to go) and I laughed nearly all the way to Perth - If that was the worst that was going to happen I was fine!!

Actually I stopped in Northam (100 km to go!!) and helped a couple of young blokes who had lost the fanbelt off their HZ panelvan. They had bought a new one but couldn't get the Alternator bolt loose to fit it... not surprising since the only tool they had was a pair of pliers... feeling very well prepared, I pulled the tools off the back of the bike, broke out a 8" shifter and loosened off their alternator bolt. I asked how far they had to go and was struck speechless when they answered, (and I quote) "to the other side of Australia."

Travelling across Australia with only a pair of pliers and not even a spare fan belt?

Ok.

I was told that the reason the CX500 was so reliable, was because the engine was designed for a turbocharger - therefore was hugely overengineered. They were extremely popular with motorcycle couriers for their reliability, ease of handling and comfort. And that note!! I now ride a 2000 model Motoguzzi because the Honda hooked me on the transverse V twin. And hey, the chain never comes loose :)

There is a chap in Kalgoorlie who has fitted a Honda CX 650 motor to a 3 wheeler he has built - two wheels in front, one in back, like the old Morgans from England - it looks great, a bit like something from mad max.

I seriously don't think anyone will ever love camiras. i will have hunted them all down and burned them all by then.

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Now isn't THAT a title for trouble if ever there was one lol

JohnPerth, those old Vauxhalls were a part of Australian History hey, kids of today just do not get it, but even up to the late 60's early 70's, Australia really did ride on the back of Pommy Cars, despite what the knockers say, Pommy cars were always better trimmed and optioned than our old Holdens, Fords or Chryslers of the day.
This new generation really missed out on some diverse machinery, nowadays all they see is Holden and Ford, then Jap Cars...
A shame they never got to experience the thrill of driving an ugly old Austin 1800 and blowing off the local hoods in their old EH PMSL

Circlotron, would you believe earlier this morning I was having a conversation with a Lady online about how sad she was for selling her *ahem* "Classic Camira" for $1500!!
Ruth if you are reading this now that you know about oldholden, I say this in the kindest way possible... CLASSIC & Camira will NEVER go together in the same sentence ever!! lolol
You did damned well to sell it for $1500, altho I still say that they only paid that for the Camira so they could get those HT-307 Number Plates off of it then BBQ the Camira later on! ;{P hehehe
Now now Ruthy, don't reply with anything nasty or I will retract the 'Lady' line :{D pmsl

Pink Bitch, would you believe I sold my Z1000J2 Kawasaki cos I honestly thought it was too much for a Town Bike and thought that 500cc would be much safer, better and more comfy (after I actually rode it and was sold!) so I downgraded before I bloodywell killed myself! (where was that damned hindsight?) lol
I still 'poo poo' at the kids R1 that is his life, I am always rubbing it in that real Bikes are Shaft Driven, none of this poofy chain shyte for real Bikes, MAN does he BITE! PMSL
You should see him stomping his feet when I tell him how my old CX500 could have run rings around his plastic R1 hehehe
Man talk about hooking Big Mouth Bass! ;{P
It would be VERY Interesting to see that CX650 Morgan mate ;{P *hint hint*
Surely ol RedBeard would have snaps of that one somewhere?

But Camiras, I can honestly say that I have despised them from the day that a friend of the Wife lost her little boy at the Primary School in her Camira Station Wagon.
They had problems with the Fusable Link blowing all the time and got a Mobile Mechanic to fix it, he fitted up a solid piece of wire and told them that it would need looking at to work out what was wrong.
Her little boy aksed for the keys and jumped in the car, his lil sister jumped out when the wiring behind the dash went up but for some strange reason he jumped over into the back of the Wagon, it went up in flames in seconds, there was nothing that anybody could do, it was like a bomb, within 10 or 20 seconds the car was ablaze and no one could get within 5metres of the bloody thing...
They found his little body curled up in the back, the coroner stated that he had died from inhaling the toxic smoke from the burning plastic before the fire even reached him...
In the Court Cases that followed to see who was to blame, it turned out that it was an inherent problem with the Camiras and no one could be held to blame because the wiring had been modified, if it had the fusable link still in place it would have shorted out and melted...
Camiras, I bloodywell HATE them!
Anyone who does own one here who is attached, all I can say is please, never leave your kids unattended in one, EVER!
If yours develops the same wiring fault which was common in the first series or starts spitting fusable links, get rid of the bloody thing for gawds sake, or fix it properly!

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"or fix it properly"
... by pushing it off a cliff into very deep water.

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Hang on, Camira's have SOME good parts in them...the ECU is the same as the VN/VP ones and can be used to run VK injection and they run 13" or 14" tyres which can be donated to old Holdens and I'm sure SOME other bits fit either Commodores or older Holdens somewhere..... :-))

BTW, absolutely beautiful photos in the E-mails Pinky.

Cheers...Dave
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Don't tell everyone about the ecu being the same as ALL vn-vp incl 5 ltr, the price might go up at the wreckers................the camira ones @$15 or a 5 ltr vp@$200. The only difference is the memcal or "chip"

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Don't tell everyone about the ecu being the same as ALL vn-vp incl 5 ltr

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That's like the blue top injectors in HSV Commodores are the same as Magna injectors. Yet people pay top dollar for ones from a Holden v8.

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my other brother has a VR HSV and runs them and used to work at Holdens servious department

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"just my 2cents worth"

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