You are here

LJ GTR help please

Dear Torana GTR people.

I've recently come across what is purported to be a 1972 LJ GTR.

The car is showing a lot of rust. Internally poor. It was parked in a shed over 20 years ago without any inhibitor. It has not run since.

The Australian Compliance Plate gives it as a - 5/72 Holden LJ Torana Sedan 2 Door. The compliance plate is attached and matches the chassis number stamped into the car. That is: ALJ 05941B. The physical engine number is: JL157691.

My concern is - the two front identification plates are not attached to the car. The body identification plate I was shown reads;
Model: LJ82911M
Body Number: 05962B
Trim: 1849 40X
Paint: 567 13239

My concern is, should not the Body Number on the identification plate (05962B) match the physical chassis number stamped into the vehicle (05941B)?

Is it possible to confirm the actual vehicle is or is not a GTR just from the physical chassis number of ALJ 05941B?

The car, in it's present condition, does not strike me as extremely valuable. I would describe it as a 'major project'. If the plates I was shown do not match the vehicle, I assume it would be even less valuable.

Any assistance anyone can provide would be appreciated.

Many thanks for reading this, looking forward to a reply.

Best - Hamish

Model: 

Comments

Not sure about the matching numbers bit but the 82911 in the model number indicates it's a GTR or an XU-1 and the JL prefix on the engine number is the correct prefix for an LJ GTR.

Cheers
David

www.hq308.com

My Shed

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers
David

aka hq308belmont

My Archived Shed

-The engine prefix says its a GTR.
-I dont imagine you could determine what model from the chassis number.
-The model on the plate you were shown (82911) says its either a GTR or XU1 2 door.
-The color code on the plate says its painted "Phantom Grey II Metallic"
-Not sure on the interior code, it could be black, but it may not be.

So basically it is a genuine GTR, there's more than enough to say so.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers, Daniel

I spoke to Hamish this morning.

If your looking for project like this I would leave your contact details for him and get an offer to him.

It is in the Newcastle area.

rusty

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

I am interested.

MrHQGts@hotmail.com

[http://gallery.oldho...|The Gts Coupe Restoration]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

[http://gallery.oldho...|The Gts Coupe Restoration]

opps, it is not for sale as yet and he will contact us once it is ready, he is doing paperwork on behalf of the owner.

rusty

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Its your call i can understand if you dont want to give it out but i have all the records on LC/LJ Toranas. i can tell you everything about the car but to tell you where it was made, if the tages match and where it was sold etc i would need the complete vin number. If you like you can email it to me (link below) or post it here. Again up to you.

----------------------------------------
WTB: Monaro Coupe (Any Condition)
WTB: 308 Red + 4 Speed
FS: MANY Old Holden Parts (EH-WB)
Email Me

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

----------------------------------------
WTB: Monaro Coupe (Any Condition)
WTB: 308 Red + 4 Speed
FS: MANY Old Holden Parts (EH-WB)
Email Me

Also mate just looking at your body numbers, Your chassie and ADR take are Brisbane build, The Body tag is for a Melbourne built car... Also incase you dont know your paint colour is Phantom Grey Metalic.

Hope this helps a little

----------------------------------------
WTB: Monaro Coupe (Any Condition)
WTB: 308 Red + 4 Speed
FS: MANY Old Holden Parts (EH-WB)
Email Me

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

----------------------------------------
WTB: Monaro Coupe (Any Condition)
WTB: 308 Red + 4 Speed
FS: MANY Old Holden Parts (EH-WB)
Email Me

Body is 05962B, B for Brisbane

Model is LJ28911M, M for Manual on brisbane built cars.
and 40X is black vinyl.

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

......._
___/_|__Midnite__
[_(•)______(•)__]~~~~~~

Unfortunately you cant tell a GTR/XU1 from the chassis
number alone.
Your chassis number should match the 1 on your ADR plate
as yours does....05941B.
Your Body number relates to the number of LJ bodies
built. On Brissy cars they are the cumulative of all LJ
body styles (2 & 4 door) produced....5 962nd LJ body.
On Adelaide built cars it relates to what number 82911
GTR/XU1 body style built.
Only way to check the engine number is by the original
rego papers or by the VIN records, thers heaps of blokes
with the VIN disc these days so shouldnt be a problem.
But the records arent perfect, theres a lot of PSN numbers
that have no engine number recorded & theres also mistakes.
I've seen XU1s with L prefix engine numbers, 4 cylinder
cars with P prefixes & the same engine number listed for
more than 1 car. Also JL was used on all LJ 202s,not just GTRs, except for XU1s (JP).
You'll need your VIN/PSN number to check the records, if
you dont have it there is still a way.
On XU1s (not sure about GTRs tho) the last 4 numbers of
your VIN/PSN are recorded on the back of your ADR plate.
Probably a way of not getting the plates mixxed up until
they were all riveted onto the body?
Adelaide cars have them scribed on & Brissy cars have them
written on in a wax type pen, so be carefull cleaning up
the back of the plate. With these numbers & your build date
you should be able to find it in the records. Its also a
way of confirming if your VIN plate belongs to that car if
your chassis numbers are matching.
Hope this helps
Good luck.

J

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

LJ GTR.

Got bored so checked that engine number on the VIN disc.
Good news, it is listed against a GTR.
I wont post the rest of the info but have the PSN number
& the rest of the info if you want to check it.

Cheers J

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

May be a stupid question, but whats the vin disc?

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Cheers, Daniel

one of the best books you can get on the torana GTR XU-1
is HOLDEN TORANA GTR XU-1 by Fiv Antoniou it has heaps of info on specs , engine numbers , reprints of service letters and notes to dealers from holden , and just about anythin you want to know cover both LC and LJ models..

wombat..

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

LC/LJ VIN Disc.

Hi tunna, the disc has the listings of all the LC & LJs
that rolled out of Adelaide & Brissy plants.
Got info like the production date, model # & PSN # which is
the last 1/2 of your VIN number. Also has engine #, the
service option code, selling date & the selling dealers #.
The sevice option code tells you what model car it is
& what driveline equipment was fitted.
I cant do pics in me posts so I'll stick a copy of 1 of
the sheets in my shed.
You can get the disc on Ebay & theres heaps on it, think
theres 8 files with about 700 odd pages per file.

J

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

is available free [http://bendweb.com/f...|here]
open it with irfanview or similar not windows picture viewer read the first few pages to understand how it works.

Leroy

Email
[http://gallery.oldho...|HQ-Z Trim Colours & Codes]
[http://gallery.oldho...|HQ-Z Paint Colours & Codes]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Email
[http://gallery.oldho...|Oldholden Paint & Trim Colours & Codes]

I do not know if I am doing something wrong but I downloaded the zip file and after I unzipped it I ended up with a few pictures, a couple of documents and 8 PDF files.
When I try to open the pdf files with Acrobat it says the file is damaged and cannot be repaired.
Am I doing something wrong or has the file been corrupted in download.
Cheers Paul.
[http://gallery.oldho...|My Shed]
Email
[http://www.freewebs....|SS Web Site]
[http://s300.photobuc...|Other Larger SS place]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

[http://gallery.oldho...|My Shed]
Email
[http://s300.photobuc...|HQ SS Pictures Place]
[http://www.freewebs....|Original SS Web Site]

Hi Paul open it with something that reads .Tif files I get the same msg with acrobat and mine open fine with a proper viewer I use Irfanview.

Leroy

Email
[http://gallery.oldho...|HQ-Z Trim Colours & Codes]
[http://gallery.oldho...|HQ-Z Paint Colours & Codes]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Email
[http://gallery.oldho...|Oldholden Paint & Trim Colours & Codes]

Thanks Leroy.
I already had Irfanview but it said I needed a ghostscript program for it.
So I downloaded it from here.
http://sourceforge.n...
and it all works fine now.
Now if I could find a copy of the HQ microfiche I would be real happy.
Cheers Paul.
[http://gallery.oldho...|My Shed]
Email
[http://www.freewebs....|SS Web Site]
[http://s300.photobuc...|Other Larger SS place]

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

[http://gallery.oldho...|My Shed]
Email
[http://s300.photobuc...|HQ SS Pictures Place]
[http://www.freewebs....|Original SS Web Site]

Hey tunna, couldnt find me bloody shed last night &
tried to post the pic of the sheet printout a couple
of times but just wouldnt do it.
S!#t I hate computers!!!!
As said above you can download it from a couple of places
instead of buying it of Evilbay.

J

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Hi I am wondering if any one can help
I have purchased a Lj 2 door torana
It has compliance plate and number stamped in engine bay both numbers the same BLJ19522A
Chassis also has large battery holder
I am wanting to find history on this chassis can anyone help identfrom number

  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.

Add new comment

Filtered HTML

  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <strike> <blink> <i> <u> <br> <b>
  • Filtered words will be replaced with the filtered version of the word.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.

Plain text

  • Allowed HTML tags: <a> <em> <strong> <cite> <blockquote> <code> <ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd>
  • No HTML tags allowed.
  • Filtered words will be replaced with the filtered version of the word.
  • Web page addresses and e-mail addresses turn into links automatically.
  • Lines and paragraphs break automatically.
Comment attachments
Files must be less than 100 MB.
Allowed file types: jpg jpeg gif png txt pdf bmp mov mp4 mp3 avi.
CAPTCHA
This question is used to make sure you are a human visitor and to prevent spam submissions. Email rusty@oldholden.com if you have a problem.
  • Like0
  • no like0
  • Holdenpaedia idea0
  • Funny0
  • Wrong Category0
Please use, Holdenpaedia will get the first box on the left side. Post any suggestions.