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vt engine and transmission into vr

hi
just got hold of a vt engine and transmission to put into my vr.

has any one done this conversion and know what i need to change along the lines of ecu? body module?.
Is it easier to just leave my gear box in and put my fuel injectors in the new motor and leave everything else?
any help would be appreciated.
thanks brian

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Hi Brian,

I doubt the injectors (or too much else really) are interchangable between the VT and VR motors.

You will have much better success with your question on Streetcommodores or the Fastlane Forums. VT's and VR's are a bit too new for us.

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It would be possible to do this, but not easy. It would be an advantage if you got the entire wiring loom out of a VT to install in your VS. I put a VP engine in my HZ, I am an electronics technician and the wiring was probably the hardest part of the whole job. You will need to know how to read a wiring diagram really well to get it all hooked up right.

Why don't you sell the whole lot and go and buy a VT?

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Why don't you sell the whole lot and go and buy a VT?

...now where's the fun in that?

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things to do
1) change complete main body loom (this loom is a one piece from wraping around engine bay through to back doors including all dash stuff)to a vs including bcm and matching key head,
2) change drivers door loom to a vs one
3)find a vs engine loom and comp to run the vt engine.(has to be vs comp)
3)drill and tap in the front of the intake mani for the vs temp sensor.
4) need to use the vs lhs exaust manifold or get vs extractors fitted
5) need to use all vs-t bolt-ons (alt, p/s, a/c pump, cruise is different aswell
6)all hoses and cables need to be changed

do not take this swap lightly its a biatch. if ya look at my shed i did a vn to vr upgrade and its a big job. actually fitting the vt engine and box is easy its the little things that holden did in the wiring between all models.
the ONLY things vr and vs have in commen are COSMETIC dont be fooled.

feel free to ask me anything i have been inside n out of these things when i did my mod lol. i started off wanting to do the vt conversion but the vr was the easiest plus one thing holden did right was all options were hard wired into looms so for things like elec windows were a plug n play thing, as for vs-t if u want to run elecs make sure u get a main body loom that supports these options and bcm also supports them aswell.
what ur mainly want to acheive here is upgrading ur vr to a vs then using a vt engine instead of the vs one

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Hey there,

would you be able to tell me if there is much involved in putting a VT engine (& possibly auto as well) into a 12/95 VS commodore? Are there any major wiring dramas? WOuld all the bolt ons to the VT work on the VS (the VT from which the motor came is a Equipe, & the VS it is going into is an Acclaim. Thanks.

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if serious email me @ hz308ute(at)westnet.com.au and ill explain in detail but all thats needed in replacing the vs engine with a vt is drilling and tapping the vt intake for the temp sensor and using the vs exaust manifolds. u use the vs loom and computer but replace the chip with the vt one if u get the vt comp with motor if not the standard vs one is fine :) u just wont get the full potential out of the vt engine. there is no major dramas its a staight forward plug n play swap. vs to vt all sensors and plugs were the same cept they changed 1 temp sensor, and the vs loom cant reach it so i need to move it.

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I would realy recomend not bothing to go to that much troble. If changing wiring harnes in drivers side door you would have to change it in all the other doors as the central locking is different from vr to vs. I personly own a vr and after driving a vs would not recomend going to the trouble of stuffing round with it. If you want the vr v6 to go harder sell the vt driveline and buy a 4.3 crank from come racing change the chip add extractors and if you dont drive with your foot through the carpet fuel economy would be no differnt
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Its a completely different enginge and gearbox setup between VR and VT - you will need to do a full swap - engine, gearbox, ECU, wiring - body control module should be ok

The main issue is that the ECU changed between VR and VT

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i give a detailed comment on what has to be done, and u all come in here and twist it all around, but dont take my advise, even though i spent 4 weeks sorting all this out in my car been there first hand. vr and vs cental locking is EXACTLY THE SAME the plugs going to the front drivers door is different as on vs they split it to 2 plugs as the rear drivers door is on a seperate loom vr isnt rear door is hard wired into main loom.
what he is tring to achieve is replacing all the vr electrical wiring, computer and body control with vs stuff then dropping a vt engine into the bay. its well worth the effort and will eat a standard vr. the hardest part is pulling the dash and thats easy.

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TELL SOMEONE WHO CARES

Yeah, it **IS** OLD Holden....also not old dog/cat/bike/kids...need I go on?

We tolerate/participate in discussions on LOTS of off-topic stuff.

The odd newer car thread is OK IMHO, aspecially as someone MAY learn exactly what they need to know when putting these drivelines into an old Holden...

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old holden half the old holdens are this site have later model updated engines and most of us play with lots of cars true/false lots of people on this site customise there holden and transplant later model bits into our old holdens and knowing what is the same parts and what can be used together can make customising cheaper so knowing the differences between models can help if you dont like a thread dont read it


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Well each to there own i supose, Take a stock vs for a drive, then a stock vr for a drive. If you realy want to swap engines and have heaps of time to waste go nuts on it, after all its your car and nobody elses. Personly there only a couple killowatts difference which is stuff all, If you have the money to swap all this over you would be better off putting a 5litre in it but thats my opinon, If you do the conversion good luck and let us know how you go, for now im hopping off my soapbox
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lol to post above take a stock vr for a drive then take a stock vt for a drive u wont get back into a vr and that is what the guy is wanting to achive vr's r a pig on fuel and lack power compaired to a vt. the eco's in the vt were alot better that vs. buy the time he buys all the wiring and stuff he will be still way under the initial price of even buying just a v8 let alone all the conversion, later model v8 conversions are a pain as there is so much work involved compaired to the old holden conversions and upgrading the vr motor n box to the vt is well worth it and not expencive at all, find a good wreckers and u will maybe pay $200 for all the wiring $200 for vs engine loom and comp and all done.

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Just wanted to know if I can put a t700 manual kick down automatic transmission fron a vn 5L into a vt 5L and if so how hard is it

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Can I put a vr trans into my vt??

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purchased a vt ecotec (mildly worked) want to drop into 96 vs s pack, but got the vt box too, will i have trouble putting in box or can i just swap bellhousings?

any help would be appreciated.

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don't try unless you can find a bell housing from the last of the vs utes that came with the (8HDD) auto ive seen blokes cut bits of the bellhousing to get them in its ugly and theres no room for the exhaust

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