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Goodness !!!

20 grand hmmmm ?

That'd buy you a really nice late 60's Camaro.

Actually, f&ck it, I was going to be all nice and non-committal but...hmm...nah......my gimp mask just fell off.

Words fail me.

Who in their right mind would buy that for 20 grand ?

Seriously..... that crowd are even as we speak trying to figure out how many cartons of XXXX and Winnie Blues 20 grand will buy.

"Carry the one........."

I just....I mean....it's .......ahhhhhh.........*shakes head*

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It may not be worth $20K, but we've all seen crazy people pay stupid prices for similar stuff. Why would he not start at 20-ish and see what offers he gets? I know I would..
Would I buy it for 20K? No way, I'm not that silly.
If I owned it, would I try to sell it for 20K? Absolutely.

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Exactly right. Somebody WILL pay that sort of money for this. Is it good value? Sh*t no! Is it because it is an HK GTS? Hell yeah!
Believe it or not Stan, there are a lot of people out there that want to own an HK GTS that badly that they would be quite willing to pay 20 grand for a rusted out POS. It definately makes a lot more sense to buy a late '60s Camaro in better nick for the same money, but, the biggest problem with that is, it's NOT an HK GTS. It's NOT what these people WANT.
This is not just an Australian thing either, there are at least a dozen American muscle cars that fetch ridiculous prices whilst very similar vehicles in much better condition can be had for a steal. It all comes down to that irrational desire to own something that you really like.

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I wasn't making a value judgement about someones desire to pay that sort of money, we both know some idiot probably will.

I was making a value judgement about how stupid it is to actually pay that much if you don't have a deep and burning desire to own a rusted out POS.

It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

Now, does that really matter in the big scheme of things ?, of course not.

I'm just putting my $0.02c in.

People don't like it....don't post here, go to Ebay or trading post or something.

It's real simple.

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...but I just don't think I'd like to be the kind of person who TRIES, HOPES or even PRETENDS to ask $19+ thousand for such a car.
Basically, I see 2 governing factors in this type of situation:
1. The last thing that stupid people need is for me to rip them off.
2. The last thing I need is the bad karma I'd attract from trying to milk rich people of that much of their money, for THAT car.

Sorry, but that's just a bit insulting.

HK'ing.

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

Man if that has only done 88,000km, then HKs must be the biggest lemon on the planet.

I have seen EHs and HZs with more miles in much better condition than that thing.

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Stan Still the man still what people sell or do with there cars that's there business as for you're comments on monaros you never had one and if you did it was probably bought buy you're mum for $300 dollars because you had a sook and you wanted it, please mum please buy me that car and when you got it you didnt have the balls to fix it that's why you sold it in the first and so called second place both cars where crap, pos, turd runners and yank cars are no better than ours.

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Hmmm...odd, I didn't realise it was school holidays ?..

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No way! This person's 'writing' confirms this person isn't just enjoying a week or so off school.
I suspect their enrolment in ANY educational house was 'curtailed' a long while ago, and under dubious circumstances. This one wasn't an academic 'high-flyer'...!

HK'ing.

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

You'll have to get Rusty to try and put this up with comments turned off, or comments from SS blocked or something. Putting things up for sale on here usually attracts such comments as above from such idiots. Good luck with the sale.

..and Stan I really don't understand what your doing, you obviously like American stuff so why don't you buy something like a Camaro? For all I know you might be an American living in America? In older posts of yours you say you bought a Camaro, but that was it. Do you run one of those places that sells imported US cars? What is it you don't like about Monaros or any other Holdens? They are worth a bit because they are very desirable cars. If you shared what Holdens you own/have owned you might get some more positive feedback here, but it would be a stretch. You probably won't answer any of my questions here but if you do I will stop assuming that your only here to A/ piss people off B/ talk about the government C/ conduct market research for a car product company you work for D/ (most likely) all of the above

"That'd buy you a really nice late 60's Camaro." Where? Around that mark they're not actually that nice are they?

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lol...how condescending of you, you who's been here for less than a year.

I, along with Streetneat, are of the mind that Monaros represent exceptionally poor value for money right now.

I sold my HG GTS monaro a few years ago .....and wouldn't buy another one...not at the silly money being asked for them. My HT monaro went earlier than that, couldn't be bothered with it any more. I kept my HG Premier though, it's in the shed.

I've probably had more old holdens than you've had hot dinners......and yet that still doesn't change the fact the better value is to be had rather than some rusted out POS with a 20k price tag.

In case it's escaped your notice, this is a public forum. So if anyone wants to use it to flog their stuff, they have to be prepared for reactions...especially if what they're trying to sell it ridiculously priced in some peoples opinions.

You don't like it ?..then don't post...it's that simple.

OH, and what you need to do to get a decent old car is get off your a$$....buy a $1800 plane ticket to the US and go looking.

Yes, 20k will get you a VERY nice old car if you bother to put a bit of effort in. Only a complete fool would pay the stupid prices the importers want.....although, lets face it, the demographic that likes old muscle cars really aren't renowned generally for being too bright, or not lazy.

And please.....work for a car company ??..hahahahhahahahaa..........

Ahhhh....... you're funny.

Oh, the only negative feedback I get is from mouth breathing knuckle draggers who have no rejoinders when I point out their flawed thinking and pseudo-scientific babble in areas they obviously have no understanding of.

Them and recidivist driving law breakers, although those groups generally overlap.

Sometimes I may be harsh, but never without provocation......in simple terms, "they asked for it".

Someone will post up a question like "What do you think of HHO systems"...and I'll reply "Well, they're cr&p and they don't work" and explain why...then the hysterical abuse starts with every room temp IQ fool jumping in because of some perceived slight to their drinking buddy......so then they get told....and they don't like it...and they deep down know they're wrong yet hardly any of them ever admit it. In fact, I struggle to think of even one occasion where I was proven wrong......but that's ok, it's only to be expected. There's nothing really surprising about that now, is there ?

So there you have it.

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A TROLL is someone who posts inflammatory extraneous or off topic messages in an online community such as a forum or blog with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on topic discussion, Source Wikipedia.

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You can have any colour you like, as long as its Fowlers Ivory,

And the relevence of that is ????

1: Post up ad for a product

2: Read comments on how the price is too much

3: Start ranting about trolls.

Obviously you didn't post the original ad, but the point still applies.

Seriously, sometimes I get a headache just thinking down to the level of some of these comments.

I mean, come on..it's simple comprehension....you did learn that at school, right ?

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You fit the definition of a Troll exactly, and I might ad you're a coward. Cheers

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You can have any colour you like, as long as its Fowlers Ivory,

Whatever you say, big man.

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opinions are like forums............

every forum has one..........

Hey now where's the Pic's Gimp.."he who is never wrong"

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It doesn't matter where you go they will be there. What annoys me is good people have left this site because of them, it does annoy some people. Cheers

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You can have any colour you like, as long as its Fowlers Ivory,

I have ... "[http://www.facebook....|Oldholden for grown ups]"

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Who's "they" ?..

What gladdens me is that good people now don't have to wade through the morass of ridiculous comments made by the departed.

I mean, they went..and no-one even noticed, right ?..let along cared

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Beats me.....Mickey & Minnie Mouse?

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Cheers,

Emu

O.H.T.C. original member

Use the search feature.

Find me one example where I'm substantively wrong, about anything.

Off you go...there's a good lad.

I'll wait...........

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BAN THE TROLLS

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You can have any colour you like, as long as its Fowlers Ivory,

is entitled to their opinions. After all it is just that - their opinion. $20K is a lot of money especially if you have to pay someone else to do the rust repairs for you. Good luck with the sale it is a classsic and will be nice restored.

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judging by the pic, car looks complete, and body looks pretty decent.
If I had spare 20,000 I would buy it.

Hk is the most collectable of the Monaro`s. trying to Remember what model Monaro "Lionel Rose" the boxer owned

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Vote for the sex party, Since were going to be screwed anyway
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Wanted...tk bedford cab
Wanted...dodge Desoto parts, 1954 ute
Wanted...J5 bedford wiring loom, and seats

IF that's 55,000 miles with books bargain. Not if its got 55,000 miles on it, means nothing could be 255,000 or 455,000 miles. Asking $19500, so maybe $15,000 would be ok, wouldn't pay much more than that for it, by the time you spend $$$$$ restoring it. How many Camaro's did they make? How many HK Monaro's did they make? Hey I luv them both! Drew

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HZ Kingswood sedan, HQ Kingswood Wagon, HJ Ute, HZ Sedan, HX ute and WB Stato, what to work on or cruise in today?

Depends on whether it's original rust or not.

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It is hard to determine from the pics. It could be run of the mill Kingswood rust.

Doesn't matter though, it will still sell.

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See, this is where you come unstuck. There's every chance that's Belmont rust rebadged so it looks like Bathurst rust. Cut and shut rust, ought to be banned.

But I hope he gets his 20 for it. It IS a classic in my book, no matter what.

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IMO I would say 12-15g is what I would pay. That fibreglass/filler or whatever it is all over the back looks like its playin hide the massive hole/dent/rust though. Goodluck with it. I'm more of a HQ man myself, but that would be noice once finished.

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At least the purchaser can actually see what they are buying, plenty of mechanically uneducated people have purchased older vehicles thinking that it's got a nice paint job only to discover that the rust holes have been filled with newspaper and filler..As for 20k well people are paying half of that for a half decent shell then spending countless thousands and hours trying to locate all the correct parts to assemble the vehicle, 20k probably isn't a bad price for someone who's able to do the entire restoration at his leisure using his own skilled hands.

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If I had 20,000 dollars I could get a totally rebuilt mint condition Hr holden as is on ebay currently.

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A HR is not a HK Monaro! Drew

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HZ Kingswood sedan, HQ Kingswood Wagon, HJ Ute, HZ Sedan, HX ute and WB Stato, what to work on or cruise in today?

If someone buy's it at that price its up to them.

To most it's over priced.

We know it puts the prices up on parts.

A dick head and there money can be parted in many ways this is one.

If the seller get's the price its good for him, bad for others.

Some have payed big money for fake's.

It will sell, we will not no the real price, only what it is said to be some will believe some will not.i don't care.

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Wanted information from any one that has any information that has worked in a place that built ambulance's of any type in particular holden hq to wb's and any ambulance builder's paper work or manuals thanks authorised collector of emergency electrical's

I have to agree with Stan.For 20K you can get an American car that is
a better car,and think how much money you have to throw at it to bring
it back from the dead.By the time it's finished it would it would owe
you more than a smick C2or C3 Corvette or another highly collectable muscle car.And you can get almost every part for them.New(repro).

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Big block HZ 1 tonner
HQ SS
WB van
HJ coupe

for a start SS it is not $20000, it is not a rusted POS, it is original GTS with 55000 miles, it has been stored under a Brisbane house since 1979,floors are in VGC, has panel rust, it is worth the asking price,everyone is an expert when it comes to this subject, I know Andrew Clatworthy and he is not making the selling asking price, if you have constructive ideas post up if not....... good luck to the seller and the buyer, I am certain they can negotiate a price between themselves, not all of us, Lindsay.

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Cheers, Lindsay.

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When people start using my name to add weight to their arguments/statements here then that's sorta sad.
Yes over the last few decades I have restored these cars for a living and got to learn a lot more about the marque than I ever wanted to know. This dosent make me any sort of guru on all things Monaro. Far from it.

My opinions are just that - mine. Value is like beauty - it lies in the eyes of the beholder. While I don't see the value in these cars for me - I certainly don't begrudge those that dream of owning a genuine GTS Monaro at what ever cost. Most of you here wouldnt see the value of being a hillbilly in rural NZ. That's my dream I'm living. Some one else may have the dream of owning a rusty Monaro to fix up - that's no different.

Lets separate opinion from fact;
20k for a genuine GTS - albeit in need of restoration is about what I would expect as a sale price and pretty fair in the current market. For the same or just a little more AUD money converted to Kiwi pesos a driving & registered GTS could be had over here. Look on Trademe NZ sometime.... So in that light a rusty version in need of major TLC in Oz would be poor value for money. I recall one such car for under 30k NZD - around 27k ...and it took over six months to sell. I did hear unsubstantiated reports the car sold for a lot less to a very happy buyer. I don't know if that is true or not but is plausible.

But please guys - just leave my name out of these debates in future.
Cheers Streetneat-Andrew.

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Cheap, Fast, Good - pick two.
If its cheap and its fast - it wont be good.
If its good and its cheap - it wont be fast.
If its fast and its good - it wont be cheap.

StreetneatShed

Purely my opinion, and not to be taken as a slap across anyone's face with a gauntlet, but U.S. muscle cars from the late 60's onwards leave me cold. I cannot see why so many people crank off over them, especially Camaros, Vettes and the greatest urban myth of all, the Mustang. They've always struck me as the ultimate mid-life crisis car, right up there with bloody Harleys and Ducatis. The Monaro's homegrown, instantly recognisable and obviously not something you've imported already restored / finished from the US in LHD form so everyone can tell you don't know one end of a torque wrench from the other, but you do have a lot of disposable income from your superannuation payout.....

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I agree.

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Well, you do make a good point.

I guess I'm just saying that if you want a 1950's tech muscle car with two doors then you're going to get better bang for buck with a yankie import. I mean, you could get a nice Camaro/Firebird/Mustang/Chevelle *whatever* in good running nick with a big V8 and basically nothing to do to it (well, maybe RHD conversion if you are so inclined) for less money than what they want for the 2 door kingswood that is a basket case and will require a fortune spent on it just to get it to roadworthy stage.

Hey, I like Monaros, I've owned a few, but they were only ever just that, 2 door Kingswoods.......personally I think if you pay over 20-30k for an old monaro (in *good* shape) you have rocks in your head, but that's just me.

Obviously someone has stumbled upon some old car laying under some old guys house for the last 30 years and now thinks they've won the lotto......

Reminds me of the guy I knew in Canberra who scored an original XB GS in pretty good nick for $500 a few years back as he was a sparky who went around to fix an old ladies light in her shed and *bingo* there was the car inside under a tarp. The old ladies husband used to drive it until he had a stroke, so it just sat there. This is a true story as I saw the car when I bought an engine and box from him.

So yes, looks like another car has been discovered.

Well, good on 'em....they'll find some chump to buy it I'm sure, just won't be me.

And I'm sure no-one is going to lose any sleep over that, right ?

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You never had Jack S..t

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"I guess I'm just saying that if you want a 1950's tech muscle car with two doors then you're going to get better bang for buck with a yankie import."

Yep, that's a fair enough point, and well put. It'd be an awfully boring world if we all liked the same cars, wouldn't it? Thanks for the comment Stan.

Cheers, Matt

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Welcome.

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my friend is called "buying smarter"

have another beer norton...quack quack

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Its only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it!

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Look on ebay at the yellow heap of crap that is up to about $14k (last time I looked). I think I would rather pay around $20k for the silver one that looks complete & rather straight. Dont forget all the yank cars are LHD and to me that has to be taken into account when you say you can buy a yank car cheaper than a Aussie car. Good luck with the sale mate.if its clean underneath I think your in the ball park somewhere between 15k & 20k

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redbook author up here ^^^^^ lol

god damn love independant valuers lol

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Buy it for $20K, spend $60K getting it decent and you would know what you've got for $80K. I'd rather do that than spend $80K on a HK GTS that looked nice but I knew nothing about.
No, I wouldn't do it, but I can see the logic in restoring that if you really wanted a HK GTS.
I'd rather put the money into a top shelf V8 Bolwell Nagari roadster or a 930.
David

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Old is good.

Nice choices...... I agree (well especially the 930 bit).

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Same colour, same trim, same rust under the passenger rear window, but my R/H/R panel was better than that one though, lol.
Got all of $2,000 for it.
C'est la vie.

I remember having to replace the tacho so I just looked in the Saturday paper, a 5 minute drive got me one for 15 bucks.
How times have changed

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you could always buy it, put a 265 hemi in it, toploader, and do a shed build hahaa

lol@this thread, i miss this place!!

and stan for prime minister

here here!!

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nm :-)

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

Picking on someone's choices / tastes

Not nice.

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Growing old is unavoidable, growing up is optional ;)

[http://gallery.oldho...|Shed of Wheel Nut]
Email me

Jack it up at the rear, big flares, blower sticking out of the bonnet, Hot Pink paint job and 186S badges

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Cheers
Dick Lang Still ignoring Stan Still.

HQ Ute, HQ Prem Wagon, HX Sandman Ute, HZ Ute, VE Lumina Sedan.
Wanted "Lanjen" Holden Service Tools and "Lanspeed" Early Holden Accessories

nm

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Cheers
Keith

lolerorp

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on ebay is at $17K at the moment it has no engine, no gearbox, non original diff, rusty floors, and boot floor, about 30 cracks in the dash pad,no GTS steering wheel,no console, no tacho,badly ripped/torn seats and interior trim, the one above is all there and original, even the radio works and has the manual for it too!

http://www.ebay.com....

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Cheers, Lindsay.

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Watching....watching....

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Stan you know nothing about Monaros Ive looked past all your previous information handed down over the years and you haven't contributed to anything worth wile to this website your statements are just smart Alick ones worth a pinch of salt like your prem you think you've got in the shed ,Also speaking of sheds you dont have one and their be a reason for that its because you know nothing about Holdens except bragging and bulls..ting about how many you've had??who cares how much Monaros are worth this site is not about putting people down but for valuable information members are willing to share within this public forum so just shut up smoke you're pipe, collect your dole check and wipe you're bum regards you're mate.

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smart "Alick"...hmmm, maybe a lick?? or lick?? i dunno?? LOL

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I believe it's actually 'smart alec'.
:-)

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

ddddddddddddduuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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Can you dumb it down a bit for me?

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'i'm definately shore that guage wont work with my tuff bango diff and Opal sydcrome box,if it goes though my grill,and I put the breaks on I realize its better with the glimer belt & tunned holly and Ederbrock duel feul webber gaurds, wiht etc primmer.'

"I, along with Streetneat, are of the mind that Monaros represent exceptionally poor value for money right now".
Well as long as both yourself and Streetneat agree then it must be so! In all due respect to Streetneat, his thoughts like yours are still only personal opinions and neither of you cannot possibly govern the supply, demand or current market value on a HK Holden Monaro in AU, no matter how poor the condition appears to be. The fact is that if HK Monaro's are still pulling in high tens to low hundreds purchasing such and spending a further 60k in it's restoration could still make it a viable option could it not?

Everything is worth nothing, that is up until the point when the funds change hands!

cheers...

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I thought the backside had fell out of the Monaro prices?, obviously not.Nice car but .....

http://www.ebay.com....

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Cheers,
John.

Someone (who knows what they're doing) will buy it, for a bit less than the asking price, spend $30k on it, and then sell it for $60k+.

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is now getting restored by the owner.

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In other words, no-one wanted to buy it.

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the new owner is restoring the car.

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Hope he opens a shed and takes plenty of pics for us....

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Whatever you say Big Man, whatever you say.

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I thought this thread had died....I was wrong :D

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Cheers,

Emu

O.H.T.C. original member

wocka wocka

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Hi there,

If the HK monaro is still for sale, could you tell more about the car's condition, features, anything missing and any any paper work, etc...
Would you be able to send some pics to the following email address thanks:
edomujk01@gmail.com

Thanks.
Regards,
Ed

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Hi there,

Just wondering if the HK Monaro is still up for sale, and some more pictures on the car (engine bay, interior/dash and ID tags).

Thank you.
Regards Pep

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