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Centre lines need repair

Hey all,

Have a set of genuine centrelines (14x8) that I want to get restored to plonk on the HG - the money shot.

Having said that I've had ridiculous prices to get them polished and machined up.

One mob wants 700 clams, they all need re - welding, re-rolling, yada yada yada.

Now, I know that things aren't cheap, but I'm not an idiot.

Does any body know anyone HONEST with no BS who does this service? I'm in Ringwood, Victoria. I've already tried Neway in Heidleberg and found them less than convincing.

Thanks in anticipation,

James

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Have you tried [http://www.acealloys...

used them about 3 years ago and knew what was what THEN...

But see what they're like now as they have moved here since I used them and seem to have got bigger......

which sometimes ain't always better......

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$700 for four wheels re-welding, rolling, straightening, polishing, yada, yada, yada is $175 each.
That would have to be half a day's work minimum on each wheel. Say $35 an hour for all up employee costs is $140 labour for 4 hours, which leaves $35 to cover rent, insurance, plant and machiney costs, electricity, the office worker to manage the place and some beer money for the boss.
I'd say $700 is value for a quality restoration of four alloy wheels. It would have to be cheaper than buying new copies.
I've got 5 Hotwires to be restored one day and I've been quoted $900 including new caps and nuts, which I'd be happy to pay.
David

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Old is good.

Good value for restoration of tough old wheels I reckon.

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Emu

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I should have been clearer - 700 is just for repair, not polishing and certainly not a 'quality' restoration.

You can pay 900 and good luck to you, but it's not surgery, they're just wheels. Get over yourself.

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If they are just wheels - do them yourself.

It is a really bad attitude to have, as brakes, steering and suspension - 3 important areas for the car to be roadworthy - all rely on the wheels being safe to operate effectively.

Wheels should be treated the same as brakes. Get them checked regularly and then ensure they are maintained. Wheel alignments, trueness, all of this takes time to do properly - it is not as easy as belting it with a hammer.

As for the cost, guess what - someone has to pay, as not everything can be done for a low cost. Don't want to pay, but still want them quickly - import them from the US. The price doesn't include polishing - do it yourself. There is a guide on here somewhere I think, and plenty of videos on youtube to learn from.

Cheers,

Webber

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Send me stuff

Here's one from Dave:
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The average tradesperson in this day and age earns $35.00 per hour, most businesses need to to achieve anything between $90.00 and $135.00 per hour from their tradesmen. That amount will cover workcover, superannuation, sick leave, public holidays, annual leave and then their income tax and then what's left goes towards the business expenses!

cheers...

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***arm chair expert***

Give Paul and Rod a call in Ballarat. Good operators, and no bull - unless you start it first.
http://www.wheelsaus...
A couple of hundred a wheel you say? Sounds about right.

regards,Rod

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We charge $235.00 per rim minimum and that will only cover a reroll and refinish, and you can add another $50.00 if it's shadow chrome, and as for a polish it would be cheaper for me to just sublet them out and then that would probably cost you another $200.OO per rim on top of that to say the least. Without poking a bone at anyone Australian's all think that they're worth $800.00 plus plus plus per week take home, but you can add another $500.00 on top of that each and every week and that's what it costs your employer the luxury of having you around. And don't forget that each and every Australian employee only works 10 months of the year so yeah, it's no wonder that Australian companies are sending your jobs overseas where they can get away with paying for just a mere bowl of rice for the same end result. So Aussies support your local industries because if you don't then how do you expect those who lose their jobs to be able to even contemplate supporting yours! True story!!

cheers.....

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***arm chair expert***

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10 months!!! The remaining 2 months are absorbed by 4 weeks of paid annual leave, 10 days of paid sick leave which most people will deplete particularly if they cannot accumulate them, and the remaining 2 weeks (there abouts) are spent celebrating at BBQ's when we have our paid public holidays. Then on top all of that, everyone is awarded a further 2 months (or 4 days per annum) of paid leave for every 10 to 15 years of employment depending on your industries award. So yeah, most of us only work approximately 10 months of any given year, yet we're remunerated for a total of 12. So lets say if I employed 6 people, then I'd have to acount for 12 months (or one wage) for a non productive tradesperson per annum into my buinesses annual budget which is has to be built into it's running costs and/or houry rate....

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***arm chair expert***

Yeah, sorry mate - I re-read my post and it was only a little vague!!!

I was actually laughing at the 10 months because in the job I do I work equal time so only effectively work 6 months of the year (although I do 15 hours plus for the days I work so I probably do the same or more hours than most people).

I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying though. Having employees is extremely expensive for small businesses.

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The good thing about capitalism is that I've got choices. If you don't want to run a small business, go and work for someone else to give them these headaches.

Hey! Here's a novice idea - how about you reduce your profit?? Don't be so greedy.

Greed is good.

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I never stated that I didn't wish to run my business, just the facts regarding the entitlements of a full time Australian employee. BTW: I chose to work for myself because in my last role of employment I carried all of the headaches whilst my employer and his useless brood of over fed chubby brats thumb their noses at their dedicated staff. Anyway the likes of one of the worlds richest women Gina Rinehart will change the face of employment in this country, like the copy cat banks and insurance companies she will lead and the rest in her industry will follow, because CEO Gina Rinehart is a shareholders dream. So yes greed must be good, especially when you're the likes of Gina and you're earning 7 digits an hour.

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***arm chair expert***

HF, you clearly never have owned or had anything to do with the running of a small business if you can say "how about you reduce your profit. Don't be so greedy."
You sound typical of the half wits who think that every cent that goes into the till goes straight into the business owner's pocket. You know, the ones who will tell a mechanic when he's half way through their job that they can get the parts cheaper on ebay, and that's all they will pay. Or the ones who tell the butcher his $17.00 lamb chops are a rip off because lambs only cost $3.50 live at the farm gate. Or the ones who tell a show standard spray painter that he's a f****ing theif because the paint in his $15,000 spray job only costs $400. Or the half wits who get their flybuys or everyday rewards cards out every time they go the supermarket, even if they are only spending $10, and are too thick to realise that they don't get any points on purchases under $30. Or the half wits who use petrol discount cards to buy supermarket "discounted" petrol that is the same price as the local garage. The world is full of fools like you who have no idea what it's like owning a small business.
Yes, you have a choice, pity you don't have a brain. I'm sure most small business owners would back me up.
Please take offence, I don't mind offending idiots.
David

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Old is good.

That's fine - my comments have certainly struck a nerve, haven't they? All you chest beating heroes who run a small business think you know it all.

Your entire contribution to my request was based on abuse because you don't have the capabilities to have a debate.

Enjoy your profits. Yep, I may not have a brain, but enough to know that some lazy get-rich-overnight merchant is NOT going to charge me 1000 to repair some wheels ffs!

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My first response wasn't abuse. It was an explaination of why it costs so much to get your wheels done. A set of genuine Centrelines costs around $300 each in the USA. Add freight, customs, wholesaleing and a modest retail margin and they'll cost you $4-500 in Australia. That means the cost of restoring your wheels is much less that buying new ones.
If you happen to know any small business owners well enough, sit down and have a talk to them about how much money they make. Most of them will probably say they would be better off working for someone else. Generally speaking, small business owners aren't Gina Rinehardts.
David

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Old is good.

Obviously you're 100% correct, Gina could probably buy 1000's of small Australian businesses and then close them down just for fun. Yet the mentality of the average Joe is that small business operators must be or are making a zillion dollars per annum just like the other kids at the big end of town......so.

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***arm chair expert***

I think you should swap out "average Joe" to "ignorant few".

I believe most people are fully aware of how hard small businesses do it...

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Emu

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Precisely..

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